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Belgium 1955 50c: "Large Head" And "Small Head" Varieties

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 Posted 10/17/2008  06:31 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add DL20K to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
These are Belgium 1950s-1990s half frank coins. The book says there are "large" and "small" heads. How do you tell the difference?

(The same coins on both pictures)

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--moved to the World Variety & Error forum because it represents an interesting variety--moderator
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 Posted 10/17/2008  08:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kuhli to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
the collar is much closer to the rim on the large heads.
according to my old 2002 Krause, the large heads were only issued 1952-54, after that, the design was modified to the smaller heads from 1955 on. unless something has been discovered since then, it should be easy to distinguish the lg head from the sm head simply by the date.
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 Posted 10/17/2008  08:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DL20K to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Exactly. My source says the same. But I pick two coins of the same date - and they are different. The lower end of the head is closer or farther from the rim..
The catalog excludes the possiblity of both large and small head in the same year. So I'm at a loss - what am I doing wrong? ...
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I see that...the difference is pretty dramatic to me.
Perhaps a photo of just two of the same date with the biggest difference?
You might also post on KOTCT, because a collector there is Belgian.
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All right, I'll post them tomorrow then. I hope the photo won't be as bad as the ones above.
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The catalog excludes the possiblity of both large and small head in the same year. So I'm at a loss - what am I doing wrong? ...

Seems it's not you who is "wrong" here but that catalog. According to the Muntslag website, both varieties were used in certain years:

http://www.muntslag.eu/

Click on "enter", then (on the left) click on "Boudewijn", then click on "50 centiem". Have not figured out how to post a direct link, but the information on that page is very comprehensive.

Christian
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10/18/2008 06:28 am
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So here it is!

Belgium-1955-50c:-

It's the same year - 1955 - are the heads different (in my opinion they are) or am I seeing things ?

chrisild, thanks for the link - the website does say there were 2 varieties that year!
So are the coins above different?
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In my opinion they are different. If you drag (in some graphics application) the coin on the right over to the left, you can see that the head on the right is smaller: Compare the lower ends (of the neck) and the upper ends (of the helmet) ...

Christian

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 Posted 10/18/2008  12:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think it's a dramatic difference--and Christian's overlay shows that.
Judging by muntslag.eu, 1955 appears to be a transitional year between "big head" and "small head"
I wonder which is more common that year?
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 Posted 10/18/2008  1:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bart to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Small head is much more common. Catalog values in the Morin catalog for Belgian coins gives the following figures (in euro):
Small head:VF: 0.10/XF:1.00/Unc:1.50€
Large head:F:0.10/VF:1.00/XF:5.00/Unc:7.50

The catalog gives a mintage for 1955 of 29,160,000 , but no differentiation of this mintage between small and large head varieties.

Also: as you can see on the Muntslag website: in 1980, 1981 and 1982 the 2 varieties were minted, and from 1983 until 1993 only the large head variety was minted. This is not reflected in the Krause catalog.
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 Posted 11/24/2008  10:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Bart--very helpful info!
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