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Proof ASE With A Privy V75 Mark?

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 Posted 05/16/2020  06:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TheInfinityPoint to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's the pic of the silver eagle design. Personally I think it'd look better with the privy mark more discreet under IN GOD WE TRUST. Where it is now is just right in the middle of that beautiful mirrored field.

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I'm going to predict it will sell out in 45 min. to an hour. I don't think there will be as many flippers as last time (due to a lot of people losing their jobs, furloughs, etc.) though. But it'll be the 4th lowest mintage IIRC (after the 2019-S ERP, 1995-W, and the 2008 w/2007 reverse uncirculated error variety), beating out the current 4th lowest mintage holder by ~25k (2011 Silver Eagle 25th Anniversary Set).

I'm also going to predict they will go on sale August 15 (V-J Day) or maybe Sept 2 (official signing of the treaty in Tokyo Bay).
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Personally I think it'd look better with the privy mark more discreet under IN GOD WE TRUST.

I agree. Seems stranded out there in that big open field.


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it'll be the 4th lowest mintage

Good point. I definitely will be in for two if I can get my hands on a 2nd.


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I'm also going to predict they will go on sale August 15 (V-J Day) or maybe Sept 2 (official signing of the treaty in Tokyo Bay).

Solid guesses, except 8/15 falls on a Saturday.
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 Posted 05/17/2020  7:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mrpapageorgio to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
September 2nd sounds reasonable since they may try to make some of the releases later in the year to try and make up for lost time producing these coins.

I think the gold eagle will come out before then.
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Personally I think it'd look better with the privy mark more discreet under IN GOD WE TRUST. Where it is now is just right in the middle of that beautiful mirrored field.

I disagree with this view. The entire purpose of the coin is to commemorate the 75th anniversary of the end of WWII. The thing that makes this ASE a commemorative is the privy mark! Hiding it somewhere less obvious on the coin is counter to the purpose of the privy mark and the coin itself. If anything, I would have preferred a larger and more noticeable privy.

Regular 2020 proof ASEs with pristine fields are available for purchase, I don't see the need to minimize the privy mark on this special edition piece.

Just my opinion, of course...

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 Posted 05/18/2020  02:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CelticKnot to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@commems, I disagree with you. The way it is depicted, that privy mark is just sitting out there in a sea of smooth, shiny silver and looks lost. And since when were privy marks the design focus of a coin?

To me, someone is trying to get around the limit of 2 commemorative issues/year limit to generate more revenue.

Also just my opinion, of course...
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If anything, I would have preferred a larger and more noticeable privy.


I agree. And, why not make it more elaborate with a script font? If you're commemorating something, don't just add a little doodad like that...

In any case, I like the idea whether I can get one or not.
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do you think it will be a good investment ?
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And since when were privy marks the design focus of a coin?

Since the 1990s when the Perth Mint of Australia and the Royal Canadian Mint began using special privy marks to create contrived collectible bullion coins. Today, there are many dozens of them and they are collected for their privy marks!


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How long before they give notice for when a coin will be going on sale typically when it TBD and not a set date at the beginning of the year? 2 weeks? A month? Just curious, never thought much about it before.
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I disagree with this view. The entire purpose of the coin is to commemorate the 75th anniversary of the end of WWII. The thing that makes this ASE a commemorative is the privy mark! Hiding it somewhere less obvious on the coin is counter to the purpose of the privy mark and the coin itself. If anything, I would have preferred a larger and more noticeable privy.
I agree with your disagreement.


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And since when were privy marks the design focus of a coin?
Not for a coin, but for this coin. Otherwise, why buy it?
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I disagree with this view. The entire purpose of the coin is to commemorate the 75th anniversary of the end of WWII. The thing that makes this ASE a commemorative is the privy mark! Hiding it somewhere less obvious on the coin is counter to the purpose of the privy mark and the coin itself. If anything, I would have preferred a larger and more noticeable privy.
I agree with your disagreement


I also agree with your disagreement
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I think it should be as big as the blown up size
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I think it should be as big as the blown up size


Probably becomes more a part of the device and less privy mark.
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I disagree with this view. The entire purpose of the coin is to commemorate the 75th anniversary of the end of WWII. The thing that makes this ASE a commemorative is the privy mark! Hiding it somewhere less obvious on the coin is counter to the purpose of the privy mark and the coin itself. If anything, I would have preferred a larger and more noticeable privy.

Regular 2020 proof ASEs with pristine fields are available for purchase, I don't see the need to minimize the privy mark on this special edition piece.


It's not hiding it, or removing it. I'm just speaking from an aesthetic point of view. I still want the privy mark there obviously. Look at for example the American Innovations coins, the privy mark on that one is nowhere near the middle of the field, and incidentally right under IN GOD WE TRUST as I said earlier. On the other hand for the V75 ASE commemorative it just looks like they blindfolded an intern and asked them to choose where to place the privy mark, lol (I'm being facetious of course). All I'm saying is it doesn't appear like they took the original coin design and aesthetics into consideration when choosing the privy location.


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I'm beginning to wonder if all the hubbub about the restricted mintage (1,945 pieces) of this coin is going to be moot. At the rate the price of gold is shooting up not sure there'll be 1,945 buyers who will be able to afford this coin (alright, this is hyperbole).
It would also be nice to know when this issue is to be put on sale. Seems September 2nd (the anniversary of the Japanese surrender aboard the Missouri) would be logical.
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