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This is a fascinating topic that I just saw a couple of days ago.
I am not into colonial coins at all, but I'm hooked on this story now and sure hope the coin turns out to be genuine.
Can't wait for "The rest of the story"
Thanks to CCF for providing a place of discovery!
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The curator at the Massachusetts Historical Society was kind enough to respond to me, and I thank her. The "Boston coin" mentioned in the Yale catalogs is clearly the one from Appleton now in the MA collection. @jimbucks, that 1871 journal has a lot of interesting tidbits. There were other "English Sales of American Coins", including NE threepence, listed on page 37-38. Where did these coins go?   Another journal item caught my attention - the collector interest in these coins back in 1767.  With collector interest comes counterfeiting, so I remain curious if there were any plates of the NE threepence prior to the ~1800 time frame, from which fakes could have been made. I'm clearly way out of my league digging into this stuff, which a real pro has probably already researched. But it's entertaining. |
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Here a better image of the Ashmore III-Pence... BTW, he used the same NE stamp on the VI Pence too. Enjoy   |
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I dug up the plate from "A Table of English Silver Coins" (1745, Martin Folkes), which required some tedious scrolling and loading. Indeed, the threepence is not pictured.  MHS curator was kind enough again to forward a link to the 1870 Appleton presentation to MHS of his complete set of NE pieces, here. The interesting thing is that sources Appleton mentions (Snelling, Ruding and Hutchinson, circa 1769?) have heard of the threepence but never seen one: "we are also told there was another sort struck with III, for three-pence, but we have never yet met with it in any cabinet". Crazy! This was over 100 years after they were minted. |
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It probably doesn't add anything, but here is the plate from Thomas Snelling "Miscellaneous Views of the Coins Struck By English Princes in France...Those in the West India Colonies..." 1769. The NE shilling and sixpence look like they might be different coins than the 1745 Folkes plate, and don't seem to have the horizontal lines.  |
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Has anyone heard any more about this coin?
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This is one of those rare forum posts that causes a lot of excitement in the community. I wouldn't be surprised if many of us are waiting for L to respond and give us updates on his find.
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Another update, the coin should be picked up soon and brought to France for approval by PCGS. If it is genuine, it will be auctioned in America.
It all remains very exciting.
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If real it will make major news within the collecting community.
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Nice! Thanks for the update! Awaiting the outcome.
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I would be terrified, handing what could be a million dollars over to someone to take to France. I'm curious if you've vetted the experts who will evaluate it, i.e. American colonial expertise, in France? If it goes well, PCGS will hype the expletive out of it. If not, get another opinion. Thanks for the update.
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