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7070 Used To Be Such A Big Deal, Is It Still

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 Posted 04/28/2020  1:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TimNH to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I took one look at the 7070 and passed.

So many arbitrary rules - like there are clearly 4 different cents between 1816-1857, but the 7070 gives you slots for only 2. But then they turn around and demand about 18 different Liberty Seateds, which are much less different from each other than the cents.

Not a single 1700s coin, or a gold, or an early silver, but then it wants 4 commemoratives? And it wants new stuff like State Quarters and non-wheat cents .. who sees one of those and says WOW look at that!? Any coin that makes it into my type set has to be not seen everyday and not worth exactly face value.

Yes, gold and early silver are expensive, but why not give us something to shoot for?

Here's my 7070, (gold is kept separate) , still in progress as I too lack the early silver stuff and I have no 1793 copper. But will get them eventually, in fact I won't even consider the set complete w/out the real far-out stuff like Half Disme, $4 stella, Gobrecht dollar ... some of those early golds are really tough.. but always room to grow.

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I have a 7070 that I havnt unwrapped yet and thought what the heck. Might as well start.



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What is the most expensive coin in the set?
For me, the one Seated dollar I have now. The other will be about the same.
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I agree with all the above advise and opinions. All great input!

For years, I always I thought a type set (even without the gold) was out of reach for me. I had looked at guys sets here, other coin forums and on-line for many years thinking no-way! It dawned on me one day about four years ago, that I actually might have many of the coin I need in other album, folders and random tubes.

I put a 7070 (no gold) together on paper, before I even thought about buying the album. I was quite surprised how many I actually had.

This guy is the one that really motivated me to start the set, stay focused and complete it to my satisfaction. I even made the last custom page, just like he's.

His set is better then mine thought.

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My goal was a problem free, straight graded, consistent "LOOKING" set. The more expensive one (dollars, trade and a few more) came out of slabs. About 1/3 of the set came out of slabs. I've upgraded over the years but this puppy is done and put to bed!

This was the type of look I was avoided before upgrading.


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Have fun compiling yours. Keeps us posted on your progression.
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The 7070 is still a great album to build out- even better with the gold page. In a collecting era where so many collections are kept in bank boxes, I think the 7070 allows one to enjoy coins at home and gives plenty of jumping-off points for further collecting, research, and most importantly, sharing.
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So many arbitrary rules - like there are clearly 4 different cents between 1816-1857, but the 7070 gives you slots for only 2. But then they turn around and demand about 18 different Liberty Seateds, which are much less different from each other than the cents.
...4 different cents between 1816-57? Which ones? Matron Head, Silly Head, Booby Head, and Braided Hair?


Actually, IMHO, the real missing hole (well, pair of holes) in the 7070 is the Arrows and Rays (half and quarter), a type that is instantly recognizable (by the rays) but somehow received no mention in the list.

The most ridiculous extra hole, on the other hand, is the 1909-VDB Wheat cent. I seriously don't understand why they listed it separately.
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Actually, IMHO, the real missing hole (well, pair of holes) in the 7070 is the Arrows and Rays (half and quarter), a type that is instantly recognizable (by the rays) but somehow received no mention in the list.


I fixed that little problem by putting an 1853 arrows and rays coin in those two slots.
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 Posted 05/07/2020  8:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oriole to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Clearly Dansco does not use "type" in a consistent manner. Everyone really needs their own custom type set album.
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Everyone really needs their own custom type set album.


I made a custom last page. Sorry for the lousy pictures.

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i have the standard dansco 7070. when I first purchased it (good used, about a year ago) I was able to put 25-30 coins into it. I've revised a few things since then, but I'm still considering my options as far as which direction to begin taking. I'm not particularly ready to dive into it until I finish my Lincoln Wheat cent folder, anyway, but I'm very much looking forward to it.
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I want to add the gold page into my new 7070, but since they aren't making them, it cost as much as the 5 page 7070 album alone.
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 Posted 05/08/2020  09:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kena to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have no idea if these are big deals or not.

A CCF friend gave me the album.

The 7070 album that I was given has 74 slots for coins and I have managed to fill 63 of those slots.

I have coins ranging from very low grades to proof.

Even with the following holes empty, I am pleased with album:

Half Cents
Draped Bust 1800-08
Classic Head 1809-35
Coronet 1849-57

Quarter
Capped Bust 1831-38

Half Dollars
Capped Bust 1807-36 »Lettered Edge
Capped Bust 1836-39 »Reeded Edge
Liberty Seated 1839-65 »No Motto
Liberty Seated 1866-91 »Motto

Silver Dollars
Liberty Seated 1840-65 »No Motto
Liberty Seated 1866-73 »Motto
Trade 1873-83
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The nice thing about the 7070 is that it is a fairly complete 19th an 20th century type set and it IS doable because the really expensive coins have been left out. As I pointed out the set can be completed at a reasonable cost over not too long a time, and if that VF Classic head cent scares you off drop it to a Fine and trim several hundred dollars off. The one F coin in an otherwise VF and better set is not going to look out of place and the set will still be an accomplishment to be proud of.

Just be glad you aren't doing the old Whitman US type coin albumn I started with. It is 111 coins including ALL the 18th century types. SO you need a 1793 Half Cent, a chain cent, a 93 wreath cent, a Liberty cap cent, none of which are in the 7070. Of course the WORST coin in that albumn is the Draped bust small eagle half dollar, 1796 - 97, that's a coin that's $30,000 in AG.
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Just be glad you aren't doing the old Whitman US type coin albumn I started with...
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Just be glad you aren't doing the old Whitman US type coin albumn I started with. It is 111 coins including ALL the 18th century types. SO you need a 1793 Half Cent, a chain cent, a 93 wreath cent, a Liberty cap cent, none of which are in the 7070. Of course the WORST coin in that albumn is the Draped bust small eagle half dollar, 1796 - 97, that's a coin that's $30,000 in AG.

Those poor collectors, I wonder if anyone actually finished it?
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I have a virtual 7070 album, with two versions. The first one has the same slots as a real 7070. I've posted the virtual pages in at least one of the "Days of" threads.

I also have an extended 7070 album with many of the missing types included:

As a sample, here are the two gold pages from the extended 7070:

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I actually have a few of the missing coins, but it shows how woefullly incomplete my US type collection really is.
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