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Valued Member
United States
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Jim Archibald: For some reason you did not get this comment or ignored it: "Zonad, how long have you been tracking my purchases on ebay now? The image you posted is from over 1 week ago." The screen image Zonad posted yesterday was made about a week ago. Why on earth would anyone go around on ebay and make screen images of someone's purchases and save them? What did ZONAD intend on doing with this image at the time he made it? Post it here? He knew a week in advance that an opportunity would arise and he would post it here? Not likely. And you are okay with this? One can only wonder how many more he has like them and of whom else. You obviously condone what ZONAD has done - wrong as it is. The sad reality is that about a week ago I had a strong suspicion ZONAD would do this sort of thing - and he did - just as predicted. Why? Very simple. Because he has done this sort of thing before. And you can be sure he will keep doing it - going into ebay and recording the purchases of other people. Something is definitely not right with this picture and its disturbing for anyone to condone this sort of behavior. You also said: "I would say that it sounds like Mr.mkb has something to hide. Perhaps only a sudden attack of conscience" "By the reaction alone I'd have to say there's a guilt factor there." I find that very offensive Jim. Since when is it your business or anyone else's why I or anyone buy an item on ebay? What if I buy an item from a street vendor? Is that your business too? Since when is ebay okay with someone violating their privacy policy? Would you like someone to go through your purchases, record them, and then a week later post them on the internet and question you about some of them? And do this repeatedly? Answer ALL of these questions HONESTLY for the forum - every one of them. You should have no difficulty doing so since you apparently are a big proponent of answering questions - unless what you expect of me is different than what you expect of yourself. By the way, my earlier request to you regarding your comment: "never has there been a counterfeiting operation that used computer and laser technology to produce coins that are virtually perfect copies" was not properly answered. The information you posted - including the URLs - did not mention anything about such.
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New Member
Canada
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Coin marked A. Have you checked with ICCS to compare cert #s, as they (ICCS) could careless after the initial plastic bag is paid for, that could be an Issue.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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MKB, I'm gonna say this again--what does your last post have to do with the topic at hand?  Lacking any actual context within this thread, stuff like you posted can easily get inflammatory. This is a coin forum-- not a fight forum.  And I see nothing here that Zonad posted is offensive. Again, public info (and illegible to boot). If you have a complaint, take it up with him personally--or with ebay. "Nuff said--time for the personal tone to end.
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Valued Member
United States
324 Posts |
Kurt, I don't know what you have in your collection, but I do know many people have valuable collections, and do not want others knowing about them, and they certainly do not want someone lurking on ebay building a database of what they have. That's why some folks have their items sent to PO boxes. Privacy is a very important issue to some, and you need to recognize and respect that. Your opinion of what is good for you is just that - good for you. It does not apply to everyone else, and certainly not me.
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Valued Member
United States
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Coin "A" which is the the last pic has some obvious differences, leading me to believe that it's not one of this new wave of Chinese counterfeits. I can't wait to hear the story behind the story on this one. Frankly I'm amazed that the Royal Canadian Numismatic Association has ignored this tremendous and ever growing problem, and not attacked it head on. Unfortunately they are not alone, and it seems the only ones actively addressing it are forums such as this and blogs like Susan Headley's about.com coin site. The more it gets discussed, the better off the collecting public will be, and the less likely we will be to get taken. 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Quote: Privacy is a very important issue to some, and you need to recognize and respect that. Your opinion of what is good for you is just that - good for you. It does not apply to everyone else, and certainly not me. MKB, Irregardless of how you took Zonad's post (including that illegible screen shot), the fact is that ebay buying history is public. Gotta problem with that--take it up with eBay.  As I said earlier--take these issues up with Zonad or ebay; this forum isn't the place for it. That's not just my opinion, but my call on this matter. So let's say we back off from taking offense and stay on the subject at hand, OK?  Suffice to say, posts that are OT or inflammatory will be moved.
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Valued Member
United States
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mkb, I believe I did answer, the link I had posted was removed (edited) and I hadn't saved it, plain and simple. I didn't ignore your comment, I only questioned why you immediately became defensive over it, like you had something to hide. Kurt is correct, if you use the same ID, then it's public domain, and anyone can access it. It seems that you were going out of your way to minimize the Chinese counterfeiting problem, and then when it was mentioned that you were a purchaser of these items you obviously "took offense". This makes me suspicious, especially since you have ignored Zonad's question time and again. It appears that since your purchasing the counterfeit Canadian coins on ebay and saying it's none of my business or anyone elses you've become part of the problem and less of the solution. Now we can all be offended, but at least we're sure which side your on. If you have specific question's that you need answered, I'll be happy to comply. Perhaps you'd like to check my ebay purchases too while your at it, I have nothing to hide. In fact, if you go back far enough I did purchase two really cool U.S. Philippine contemporary counterfeits, neither of which could fool a 12 year old. In fact, both were sent to the Philippine Collector's Forum at the last ANA convention for examination and discussion. Anyway, if you insist on continuing, contact me off board as Kurt suggests, this is not the place. ~ JimQuote: That's not just my opinion, but my call on this matter It's good to be God. 
Edited by Jim Archibald 04/20/2009 2:34 pm
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Valued Member
United States
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Valued Member
United States
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Pillar of the Community
United States
5318 Posts |
Quote: It's good to be God  Not me...just thought the thread was better spent back on subject. 
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Valued Member
United States
198 Posts |
 Hopefully we can resume a normal discussion regarding what I consider to be a very important issue. No matter how much these Chinese counterfeits are down played, it's a problem we'll all be dealing with for many years to come. ~ Jim
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New Member
Canada
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The way this thread degraded seems very similar to the CCN article last week on the counterfeit coins. It is a huge problem that all forum's are challenged with. The 45/47 and 48 dollars all have the same markers to watch for. Poor pictures are the best asset of fraudsters. Nose too small, weakly struck etc.
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Valued Member
United States
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Are these the recent Chinese counterfeits that have these diagnostics? Do you have pics? Since 1948 is one of my all time favs, I'd love to actually see the differences if any. I have heard the newer counterfeits are extremely well done, so I don't expect any obvious differences to be readily seen today in these "replica" coins. ~ Jim
Edited by Jim Archibald 04/20/2009 8:20 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Hello all of you experts.... I promised more.... here it goes: I will post 3 individual pictures of 3 individual 1948 dollars in 3 different post. each picture has a number to identify the coin as either fake or real. lets see what happens....... first is about to go.....rest to follow.... expert comments and grading appreciated... HHB Image: 1948-1.jpg85.57 KB
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