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Seriously? You have a reply from one of the leading experts of error coins telling you it's not Post Strike Damage but die damage. Maybe it's just "internet funk" messing with my interpretation of your reply but it sounds like you want to argue with him! Why would you expect him to have an example? If someone has found the first one there is no other example yet, but that doesn't preclude him from being able to determine what may have happened during the minting process. Tell us again what you think it is if not die damage? BTW- You didn't say if you had soaked the coin in acetone, just this reply before Mike's assessment: Quote:
Guys, my bad. It was a booger.... i.used a 2020 p Jefferson to remedy the problem. Sorry for all the confusion. .... Words of encouragement are one of the major food groups.
We need to consume them regularly to thrive and grow.
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Oh man, memories. I dont mean to bring this thread up again for no reason. I think we pretty much covered every angle. I just happened to look through my older posts to catch up and saw this last comment I felt like I had to respond to from Petespockets. I thought it was pretty clear that the comment he highlighted was sarcasm. Regardless of that, he still asked if I soaked it in acetone, after all the other back and forth in which I clearly stated it was actual raised areas on the obverse field of the coin. Not debree, not boogers, not dog doodoo. Actual raised metal. And yeah, just caus4 Mike Diamond is has a ton of experience in this area, doesn't make him the end all, be all expert who's right 1000% of the time. Its naive and presumptuous to just assume hes 100% right, 100% of the time. Not saying hes wrong but having questions and asking for proof to back up someone's claim isn't wrong either. It's called being informed.. I could see if there were a million examples like the coin posted, or even a dozen but there arent. I asked him for just one and I got crickets. Again, not saying hes wrong but just cause hes more knowledgable in pretty much every way than me about coins, doesn't mean he can never be wrong and that his "opinion" should never be questioned, especially without some kind of evidence to back it up. That's all I asked for.
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@Waynoah83 - It is not easy learning all of these different things, we need to have patience and an open mind. This link is for my Dropped letters Wheat cent - which Mike Diamond attributed (via Coin Community). I still have it in my lock box. Check it out so you can see pics of an actual coin with Dropped Letters. As you will read the comments go back and forth on authenticity but Mike ID'D exactly what it was. Hope this helps out. http://goccf.com/t/247608 |
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Did you read any comments or dialogue on this post?
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Besides the title with a question mark. I never inferred it was a dropped letter aside from.my initial guess cause I didnt know much about dropped letters and never saw this anomaly and made an assumption. Its pretty clear early on in this original thread that I didnt think it was a dropped letter.
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You wanted an example of erratic die damage? Here you go.  Error coin writer and researcher.
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This forum taught me so much about coins and the hobby but when you get to a certain point, you realize there is no more room for legitimate questions or discussion. There are people on here who have thousands of posts or Mike Diamond chimes in and basically says your questions are silly and "just listen to us. We know better." And that's that. You would think something that's free like this, where you want people to learn and pick up the hobby would be a little more open minded. It's the same half dozen people who chime in all the time telling you you are either right or wrong. Rarely ever an "I dont know." But quick to disprove something based on passed examples, even when there is a legit possibility that poop happens and sometimes it happens to coins. This place used to be fun. Now theres rarely discussion. A seasoned member will chime in and the rest will follow. There are a few posts I responded to earlier that havnt been argued with, rebutted, nor even a question as to if I was right at all. So I'm guessing I was. And I only have 500 posts
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Lol. doesn't even look similar. Looks like a cracked skull to me. Imminant die failure.
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I asked for a relatable example.
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Your example has straight line striations and jagged cracked looking lines. My coin has smooth lines in which some have curves that follow the shape and size of the devices on the coin. Not just random lines and zigzags.
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Mike Diamond, you know more about coins than I'll ever know I'm sure. Show me an example of what you think my coin is to me. So I can atleast see what you're talking about. Cause your pics just showed what I would call PMD. Edited by Waynoah83
12/13/2020 12:16 am
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Oh man, memories. I dont mean to bring this thread up again for no reason. But yet, double negatives and all, you did. Mike Diamond was kind enough to give you his opinion on your coin. He doesn't charge us for using his expertise; we are lucky to have him as part of our community. I believe I can speak for all our other members to say we value his presence and appreciate his time and assessments. Mr. Diamond gave you news most members here would love to have, that you have an uncommon mint error, but because you weren't provided with examples, you simply are dismissing him? Perhaps it is time for you to skip the freebie advice and pony-up and pay a grading service for their judgement on your coin, especially since ours doesn't cut-the-mustard. Maybe they can provide details so you can learn population numbers to satisfy your curiosity?  |
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I haven't chimed in because I wanted to see the responses. Waynoah, the damage that was caused to your coin as well as the cent Mr. Diamond provided the pic from, can take many forms I am sure. Maybe after a few strikes it may have been discovered that the die that struck your coin was damaged and taken out of service. Maybe that could be an answer for why no more have been found. Mr. Diamond is highly respected and in my honest opinion the end all when it comes to asking him anything concerning a coin die. Send the coin for attribution then on to a TPG for grading. I look forward to hearing what the results are. |
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Perhaps it is time for you to skip the freebie advice and pony-up and pay a grading service for their judgement on your coin, especially since ours doesn't cut-the-mustard. Maybe they can provide details so you can learn population numbers to satisfy your curiosity? The thing is,will Waynoah83 believe the TPG she chooses? Will she have to send her coin to all three TPGs and see what the consensus is? John1  |
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