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1981 US Quarter With 90 Degrees Rotated Die And PMD Found Metal Detecting

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Hi. I am new to this community. I do metal detecting as a hobby. I recently found a 1981 clad quarter with a pronounced bump right over the chest of the eagle on the reverse. Verdict has been that the coin was in a fire or blow torched. But while cleaning it, I noted that it also has a 90 degrees rotated die error. It also seems that the cladding separated from either the intense heat or exposure to Chicago's extreme weather. First picture is showing the actual rotation. Dark color is normal for a coin buried for years. By looking at the pictures, what do you make out of this rare coin?

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Well the coin is damaged. Burned in a house fire. Even if it was a rotated die issue, the value would drop a lot. This would be a cull coin.
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The coin was found metal detecting in a park.
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So it may have been through a fire first and then lost in the park. Either way it is spendable change. Of these raised areas are flattened so they can still be spent in a vending machine. But when it gets back to the banks, it will be set aside to be sent back to the mint, canceled and re-cycled.
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Thank you!
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coop. It shows that you are probably not familiar with the metal detecting hobby. We treasure all the coins we find, even if they are just cull coins as you say. This clad coin is a conversation piece, not a coin to return to circulation. All error coins are also expendable, but would you expend a 90 degrees rotated die error coin?
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The coin was found metal detecting in a park.


@cyber, first welcome to CCF. Second, any chance that there were grills or firepits at this park? I definitely agree with your verdict of fire damage.

I also agree interesting to save. Any chance of you taking a pic showing the rotation? One easy way is to place it a little in front of a mirror and shoot it obliquely with your camera so that both sides can be seen in a single shot. Thx!
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Cyberborikua, do you know there is a whole section here on CCF that is for metal detecting find? Just fyi.

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I don't normally recommend cleaning up a coin, but in this case, I would make an exception. Then see if the coin splits in half, ie like a Magician's coin.
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When opening magicians coins, I've heard of placing the coin into a glass, and moving it side by side tapping the sides of the glass, can open these.
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Spence, There are old grills in the park. So there is a very good chance this coin was tossed in the hot charcoals and then discarded. I learn how to photograph the coin against a mirror to shows both sides and will post it.
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merclover, not I didn't know that there is a section about metal detecting. Thank you for letting me know.
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Blind Squirrel, Do you think I have a Magician's coin? If not, what would be the purpose of the experiment suggested to see if it splits? Just curious.
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I'm sure you could find the Metal Detecting forum here on CCF on your own, but here's a link for you:

http://goccf.com/c/16


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Looks like a "magician" coin to me. It appears that there are seems running along the inside rim area. Additionally, there aren't any 1981 quarters that have a rotated reverse, at least not listed in my database.
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