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Australian And New Zealand Coins, How Far Back Can We Go - First Edition

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 Posted 12/21/2020  8:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add triggersmob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice addition NumisRob, I haven't seen that one. :)
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 Posted 12/21/2020  10:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add David Graham to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry for not joining for the fab 2001. So many coins that year. Well, since it's 2000 I'll just have to post my latest find a second time. A 2000 mule with a 10c obverse and $1 reverse. With an estimated 5000 produced it was a very lucky find, especially 20 years after the event!
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12/21/2020 11:59 pm
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 Posted 12/21/2020  11:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add triggersmob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice David. I have still yet to find one of those, even though they were apparently released in Perth, from what I heard.

Steve :)
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 Posted 12/22/2020  12:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add triggersmob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
1999 in Australia,

First a regular 5c coin.
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Followed by a regular 50c coin.
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The Year of the Older Person $1
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The Last ANZACs $1 (NCLT)
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1999 Year of Older Person dollar:
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1999 Two Dollars:
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 Posted 12/22/2020  04:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Princetane to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great coins, I love the mule, we had the same thing in 2004, a $1 dollar planchet on a 10 cent coin. Here the dollar is 23.0mm and the 10 cent 23.6mm, so it was also "double lined" not as rare, they go for about $80 or so.

NZ in 1999 had 2 coins issued for circulation (Seriously).


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The $2 has been in circulation since 1999 and looks like it, the 5 cent was used until 2006 and has worn well (1980s and later cupronickel is very durable and seems to have been shined from the mint).

The mintages were 5 million for the $2 and a high 26 million for the 5 cents, we were going through those pieces.

1999 was also the first year of the Ian Rank Broadley effigy in New Zealand (One silver proof coin in Australia had it in 1998, but Australia was also 1999 for circulation). This makes sorting 1990s coins easy if its an IRB, you know its 99!
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 Posted 12/22/2020  04:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Princetane to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Australia for 1999 I also have a decent range.


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First a stunning group of 5c to 20c and a shiny $2 piece. Late 1990s dates of $2 coins had fairly low mintages and I was lucky to have mostly AU examples like this.


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My dollar lot I bought 2 weeks ago gave me some nice dollars, the 2 for 1999 here include the circulating Year of Old Persons dollar and the NCLT The last Anzacs dollar (I think Australia's last Gallipoli veteran died in 1998/99 aged over 100 - in NZ it was in 1995).

Not to brag, but these look nearly brand new (Highest AU to Mint state) . The Anzacs coin is my scarcest with just 48k issued of this Melbourne version.

There was no Mob of roos dollar released in 1999.

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The IRB effigy still looks sharp after 21 years.

The upbeat tone is that 1999 was a great year for me, in New Zealand things got better, we got a Labour government in and a really modern shopping mall opened and some laws were loosened, everything was modernising and I was 23 with a body that would not quit.
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 Posted 12/22/2020  05:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add triggersmob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice ANZAC coin Princetane. Interestingly, both yours and mine are both M mintmark. Yours is much nicer though as mine was found in circulation.

Steve :)
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Always great to find NCLT in circulation!

Now we move to 1998 and we are back into the Raphael Maklouf effigy. The British were a year ahead of both of our countries.
They moved to the IRB effigy in 1998, but we spent another year with this one.

With all the Queen Elizabeth effigies, along with Gillick, this was the shortest (Okay 12 years in Australia, but 13 in NZ and 15 in the UK and in the case of Hong Kong and the West Indies, it was used up to 1975!)

Australia switched to Maklouf in 1985 along with the UK, but New Zealand remained with Machin and only went Maklouf in 1986 (Giving us 13 and 14 years of coins with it).

Kiwi coins in 1998, was like 1999 - just two. The 5 cents and the $2 coin.


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The $2 coin is better than usual condition, it was in my partners change this year and I scooped it up, 1998 dated $2 coins are hard to find now anyway. This coin would be gEF/AU when most are barely VF with some high Fines. The mintage was decent - 6 million. They replaced the 1 million coins of the previous year which caused problems (More tomorrow ).

The 5 cents is nice too - interestingly the date is widely spaced on 1998 coins, which is weird given 1997 were close together. Unlike the IRB effigy, the Maklouf took up less space on the coin giving it a empty space type feel where as the IRB coins look fairly crowded.

As you will see later, every 1990s 5 cent coin has a different date type for each year which is interesting.
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Australia again was much more exciting, a very nice 50 cent coin commemorating the voyage and discovery through Bass Strait showing Mathew Flinders and George Bass.
Very lucky to have a high AU shiny coin of it.


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Here I have it with a MOR $1 and 20c, 10c and 5c.

Starting this era, we have some dates of coins with low mintages and thus I don't have them all. Some coins were also not minted every year, but nowhere near as sparse as Kiwi coins at same time.

I have no $2 coin for 1998 as it had only 8 million minted and I don't have one. Also this will be my last 10 cent until 1994 as 1997 was a low mintage and none were minted outside sets in 1995/96.
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 Posted 12/23/2020  03:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add triggersmob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
I have no $2 coin for 1998 as it had only 8 million minted and I don't have one.


You sort of do have one, you just haven't received it yet.

My 1998 NZ $2 and 5c.

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Then my Aussie stuff.

A Howard Florey $1 coin (NCLT)
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Bass & Flinders 50c
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Then some shiny coins, 5c and 10c.
(sorry these coins were imaged before I worked out out how to take better pics and too big a job to go back and re-do them.)
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1998 Australia Bass & Flinders 50 cents:
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1998 Australia MOR dollar:
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 Posted 12/24/2020  01:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add triggersmob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
1997

From Australia.
Charles Kingsford-Smith $1, circulation coin.
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Charles Kingsford-Smith $1, NCLT coin.
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 Posted 12/24/2020  01:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Princetane to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
1997 was a good year for New Zealand, 3 coins were issued, which was the record for the 1990s and the biggest year back to 1989 for circulation coins!


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The $2 , 10c and 5c.

The 5c was issued in 1994 - 1999 and again has a close together date. The 10c was the 2nd issue of the 1996/97 period. The $2 was the first since 1991 and caused all sorts of controversy as they were minted in South Africa and slightly different thickness wise.

This caused issues with slot machines, vending machines and parking meters. Things boiled over when a 80 year old woman was hospitalised after a rabid gambler attacked her when he had been spending $900 on a pokie machine and it rejected a 1997 dated $2 coin and he had to get some more money. While he was gone an old lady put $2 in and won a $999 jackpot, the guy so angry and picked a metal chair up and smashed her over the head with it.

The $2 fed pokie machine was new at the time, along with numerous snack food vending machines, which not only rejected the coins, but would go into a tilt. $1 and $2 arcade games also rejected them and even some parking meters.

In 1998, the 1 million coins were recalled and melted down and a big mintage of 6 million came out that year with more in 1999. They are very scarce now.
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Nice additions Princetane.
I don't think I will add any more today.
I'm sitting here sweating profusely.
It's 41C here in Perth and I have no air con.
Hopefully will be back on tomorrow, but if not,
a very Merry Christmas to all. :)

Steve :)
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