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 Posted 12/15/2008  11:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


As much as I would like to believe that he is being sincere and just does not know enough about coins, I get that "poorly scripted infomercial" feeling after reading it.
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 Posted 12/16/2008  10:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If the buyer would read the description they should know it's not real.


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up for bid is a1909 s vdb coin

that was sent out to be certified

by anacs

coin was returned not graded

but given n9 which in anacs terms

is not gradeable possible altered coin


He says it was sent to ANACS and returned and possibly altered. The services will not flatly state that a coin is fake, they say "possibly" altered, or "questionable" authenticity. But if they say that you know it is no good. Yes the wishy washy language of the seller will give him an out when the buyer finds out that he spent way too much for a fake, but if he READ the part of the description I quoted he should have known it was no good. But the auction was full of red flags, if he didn't read it and chose to just engage in wishful thinking he has no one to blame but himself.
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 Posted 12/16/2008  3:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jamez to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Dang I have one of them that I would GLADLY sell for $265.00. Holy Cow. Maybe I should ebay it with something like, Ya I knows its an added S MM, but it would be a great hole filler for a fraction of the price of a real one. I dont even have to claim that it was sent to ANACS.. Purchases in 1979 as real but... ITS NOT...

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 Posted 12/17/2008  4:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1gtsfan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i think the guy was straight up, the buyers just got desperate and didn't do research. if he really wanted to sell it as the real deal he could have just posted some blurry pics and he would have gotten a thousand bucks. his auction started at only 99 cents.

the buyer probably will sell it as the real deal and double or triple his money that's the really sad part.

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 Posted 12/19/2008  06:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TreasHunt to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What a waste of $265.00
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 Posted 12/25/2008  10:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Brewzz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
How in the world would would you put a mintmark on a coin?
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 Posted 12/29/2008  08:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TreasHunt to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
$265?

Someone lost a big time gamble.
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I do not think it was a 'V.D.B.' either!
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 Posted 12/31/2008  1:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Brewzz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Does anyone know?How would you add an S mintmark to a P mint coin?
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 Posted 12/31/2008  2:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nod2003 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Model Glue?
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Believe me, someone will find a way to add a MM, take off a MM, change a date, artificially tone, dip, whiz, spit on for a shine (yuk), etc, etc, etc.....
They're waiting for P.T. Barnum's friend, one of the ones born every minute.
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 Posted 12/31/2008  3:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MorganNoob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Does anyone know?How would you add an S mintmark to a P mint coin?


Interesting that you are asking this question and not the one that I think of. Where do you get the S mintmark to add to the P mint coin? Attaching it to the new coin would be easy, finding something that wouldn't stick out like a sore thumb would be difficult.
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 Posted 12/31/2008  4:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Isaiah to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is the 18th probable altered 1909 S VDB that I've seen on ebay in the last 3 months.
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His starting price is 0.99 cents. So many collectors are willing to buy fake coins for fillers at a price depending on their budget. In this case if this is authentic coin with altered MM then you give a bit higher buying budget.
Maybe my budget is $20 so I would definetly bid for it, but then another guy comes with a budget higher than me, and the bid goes on and on, until the guy who has a bigger budget wins.
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Where do you get the S mintmark to add to the P mint coin? Attaching it to the new coin would be easy, finding something that wouldn't stick out like a sore thumb would be difficult.


I know of a jeweler who makes this and is very good at it. He changes an authentic 1903s 1 peso US Philippines to 1906s a very rare date. He sells it as altered date.
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