1943 LWC Steel - Need Identification Of Error Bumps

Yes, please send some examples to third party grading/attribution services. Let us know what the outcomes are. Thanks.

Good day all. I finally got alittle more news about these crazy pennies. Lol

I sent all photos and more that was requested to a Auction House here in SC. They are not rare but seldomely seen outside of a collection given they are 1943 Steel`s.

Their best guess was "struck through". "Most likely a staple was present during strike. The cascading deterioration of the foreign matter is the result of the staple losing its form and basically getting smashed to bits as it vibrated around the planchet."

The fact I have so many they beleive is just an example of "bottom of the barrel filling". The seller had these errors seperated from a much larger batch, but "snuck them in" to fullfill my last order of 1,000.

I still do not know what their worth as they would need to investigste them in person. And even so, they informed me they could not set a grade or value becuase they were cleaned.

Again, many thanks to all that have tried to assist with these curious pennies.

Yes,your right. More is done than just lemon juice to get these pennies that shiny. And as many have ask us on ebay and Etsy how we do it....we have had to decline.

I can say full heartedly that its not a magic trick, its not done with abrasive polishers, and is done under cold water as stated earlier on in this post. If anything, these pennies only get exposed to the heat of reguliar hot tap water coming from anyones home.

And you have a point. But if exposed to a heat source that could do that kind of damage, I would think it would be more a weld which would be way more evident?

Thanks!

It could be tap water. You should use distilled. doesn't necessarily have to be a heat source. Especially if being done at home. And yeah, def not a weld. I happen to be a welder. This is actually the shirt I am wearing right now so I can tell you that is def out of the question. No matter what kind of welder is being used.

I went back and read the last couple posts before mine and def not a strike through. It would be incused as opposed to raised which it obviously is. So the staple theory doesn't work at all. Even if it someone damaged the die they would all be the same area or if it miraculously did damage to the die you would see progression with all the previous damage on the coin along with the damage caused by the staple breaking up after each continuous strike. Its def not what happened in my opinion. The fact they are raised alone proves it's not a strike through. I actually do have a steel that has some raised lines on it that seem too fat to be gouges. It looks more like die damage. Who knows. Maybe it's a steel cent form of improper alloy mix. Steel is iron and carbon mainly. It was the 1940s and we were in a war. Maybe there were some irregularities in the steel. There are all diff types, grades, and purities of metals and alloys. We only started fine tuning them to precision with advancement of computer technology. Back then it was kind of eyeballing it.

I am arriving to this conversation late, and I have to say I am sad that so many of these special cents have gone through your hands only to be ruined.

Searching for an answer to your "bumps', I noticed you quoted an expert on error coins without giving a name, why I wonder?

Petespockets55 had an excellent idea:


Being Chinese certainly would explain things. Why don't you "sacrifice," (a biopsy of sorts), just one of your bumpy cents to see what's inside? That might tell us a lot. Don't forget to photograph this procedure for us.

Kloccwork419 summed up my feelings on this matter best by saying:



They are ALL damaged. They are ALL ruined.

I hope this pic will end this redric of re-plating.

Out of the two coins....which looks replated and which looks natural. Which one looks like its got errors on it.

Maybe the past picks I posted with my bright l.e.d. light gave the impression that they were replates?

If you cannot tell the obvious difference between their condition, then this entire post is mute.

And as I looked closer at this error, I see easily that the coin inprint, back side of head, came down on the bump and smashed it down. The metal bump had to be there before the strike. So as previously mentioned, I agree these are not "struck through" error Coins.