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Walking Back In Time From 1600 To Antiquity By Decades (V3.0)

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it is large (about the size of a U.S. half dollar)


Sweeet!

This one is golden too, but in a slightly different way.

This Dirham is from the Golden Horde and was issued by the Khan Birdi Beg. It was minted at Saray al-Jadida and is dated AH 758 (1357 AD). It is attributed as Album 2031.2. I'd love to have folks correct or confirm this information. Thx!

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 Posted 12/25/2021  7:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JohnConduitt to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, Sagdeeva 277 looks about right - Birdi Beg, Saray al-Jadida. Although I can see 758 or 760.
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 Posted 12/26/2021  07:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Grinya to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is next in a row Dang of Berdi Beg Khan from Gulistan mint (Sagdeeva 276) 760AH (1359)

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Thx @john for the confirmation.

Here is a Schilling from the Vivonian Bishopric of Dorpat that can be dated to the range of 1357 to 1373 AD. The obv inscription is +IOhANNES EPC ThA and the rev inscription is +MONETA ThARBEN. I got it just before COVID and as such it is my most recent acquisition at least partially datable to the 1350s. It is attributed as Dav. 155 and Haljak 478.


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 Posted 12/26/2021  1:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Grinya to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Golden Horde dang of Berdi Beg Khan (Gulistan mint) 759AH (1358) Sagdeeva# 275

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Keep them coming @grinya!

Here is my brother to @eddiediz's coin, a Denar from Hungary. The date range that I have is slightly different (1358 to 1371 AD), but I think that this is again to our using different references. Mine are undoubtedly less up-to-date. The obv legend is + LODOVICI R VnGARIE while the rev legend is S LADISLAVS R. I believe that it was minted at Buda. I have attributed it as Huszar 542a and CNH 94A.

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@Spence, this decade it is easy:))

I will post 2 dangs of Berdi Beg (Azaq mint) 759AH (1358) Sagdeeva# 271. They both are nice and has different slyle, therefore I decided to have both in the collection:)

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And the second (I think it may be an imitation):
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One more from me for this decade.

I think that this will be our first Crusader State entrant: a Gros of the Kingdom of Cyprus. It was minted in Nicosia on behalf of Peter I and can be dated to between 1359 and 1369 AD. The obv inscription is PIERE PAR LA GRACE DE DEI ROI while the rev inscription is + D JERUSALEM E DE CHIPRE. I believe that it is Type A and Die D, but do note that it the edge has been extensively shaved to harvest a little silver arbitrage. I have attributed it as Malloy/CCS 76.

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Here are my coins of Berdi Beg Khan from Saray al-Jadida mint type Sagdeeva# 277.

1. 759AH (1358)
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1. 758AH (1357)
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Here is the Numista page for this coin: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces162997.html The coin illustrates it is also mine:)
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On this one, I think the 0 on the left of the reverse gives the date (they helpfully split the date across the bottom and left).

Jani Beg Khan, AH750/1350
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Saray al Jadida. Silver, 1.6g. Just Sultan / Jani Beg Khan. Mint Saray / al-Jadida / 750 (bottom and left) (Sagdeeva 243).
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@JohnC and @Grinya, that's an amazing parade of Golden Horde coins this decade. I am even enjoying seeing dates so clear that even I can read them .

Also fun to see new places like Livonia and Cyprus that haven't shown up before here.

Interesting to consider that the 1350s followed in the wake of the Black Death, and economic activity/output was down all across Europe, presumably meaning less new coining? Maybe not so for the Golden Horde?

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@tdziemia, I'd say that the Black Death probably started from Golden Horde and suffered Saray al-Jadidah at 1346... Also Jani Beg Khan's army catapulted infected corpses into city Kaffa in an attempt to use the Black Death to weaken the defenders. Infected Genoese sailors subsequently sailed from Kaffa to Genoa, Messina, and Constantinople, introducing the Black Death into Europe...

Just to continue, as I mentioned Jani Beg Khan, here is his coin from Gulistan mint 756AH (1355) Sagdeeva# 212

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Any more coins to be posted from the 1350s?

No rush, but I want to keep things moving when we run dry.
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Not me.
Next two decades are my best for this century.
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Jani Beg struck a lot of coins (despite the Black Death), but I think I'm done...

Jani Beg Khan, AH752/1352
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Saray al Jadida. Silver, 1.5g. Just Sultan / Jalal Uddin Mahmood / Jani Beg Khan. Mint Saray / al-Jadida / 752 (Sagdeeva 251).

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