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Walking Back In Time From 1600 To Antiquity By Decades (V3.0)

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I can get us started for this decade. This siege Jital from Eastern Khurasan is dated not only to the year, but also the month. It was minted in Kurzuwan in Rabi II of the year AH 618, which corresponds to somewhere in 1221 AD. I have attributed it as Album A1971.

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Wow! Great start. I think I am out this decade, but nice that we are moved along with the first coin
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This series are very educational to read through. I have a few Song Dynasty cash coins that could contribute but sadly not every decade.

Not in very good condition, this one is a 2 cash Dasong Yuanbao from 1227. The reverse is marked "San", the Chinese word for "three" which signified the third year of the Baoqing era (1227) under Emperor Lizong.

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Not in very good condition, this one is a 2 cash Dasong Yuanbao from 1227

Nice to see some Chinese coins. I have trouble identifying many of these so it's useful to have them in a chronological post.

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This siege Jital from Eastern Khurasan is dated not only to the year, but also the month. It was minted in Kurzuwan in Rabi II of the year AH 618, which corresponds to somewhere in 1221 AD. I have attributed it as Album A1971.

I have this same coin. It was struck by the (anonymous) malik of Kurzuwan while under siege by Genghis Khan. This (Rabi II) is the earlier date - there's another with the later date of Jumada I. That one is rarer, because the siege didn't end well for the malik. Ghengis Khan completely destroyed the city and slaughtered the population.

Malik of Kurzuwan Jital, June-July 1221 (AH618 Rabi II)
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Kurzuwan. Bronze, 19mm, 3.7g. Arabic inscription around margin with date and month; in center the name of king. Mint and Kalima in four lines (A 1971).
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Three coins attributable to a specific year posted for this decade—that is awesome! Keep them coming.

Here is a Petite Denier from the French Bishopric of Metz that dates to between 1224 and 1238 AD. The obv legend is IOHANNES while the rev legend is METENSIS. I have attributed it as Roberts 8862.


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Here's yet another attributable to 1221. It's from the other side in the siege of Kurzuwan.

Al-Nasir (the Abbasid Caliph in Baghdad, possibly mentioned on the obverse) asked Genghis Khan to weaken the Khwarazmian Empire. He annihilated it. Ghazni was destroyed by Genghis's son Ögedei.

Genghis Khan Jital, 1221
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Ghazna (Afghanistan). Billon, 17mm, 4.2g. Al-Nasir Ud-din Allah, amir al-muminin (leader of the faithful). Adl Khaqan al-Azam (coin of the Great Khan) (Album 1969).


This is by far the cheapest coin securely dated to Genghis's lifetime. It was struck in 1221 when the Mongols set up a base near Ghazna, while chasing Jalal al-Din Mangburni (the last Khwarazmshah) to the Indus River.
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This silver Tram comes from Cilician Armenia and dates to the broad range of 1226 to 1270 AD. The obv inscription translates to "By the will of God" while the rev inscription translates to "Hetoum King of the Armenians". I have attributed this as Bedoukian 842.


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This silver Tram comes from Cilician Armenia

Cilician Armenia was an interesting place with great coins. I even have a couple of bronzes and they don't otherwise fit into my collection at all.

This is my last for the decade and for the Mongols. Chronologically, it's after my previous two coins but it's anonymous and the date isn't known, so it gets a wide range based on the Abbasid caliph named, al-Mustansir (1226-1242). Even then, that might be wrong as according to Stephen Album it could be posthumous.

Ögedei Khan (1229-1241) was Ghenghis Khan's successor. He 'pacified' much of the Khwarazmian Empire for his father, including Ghazni (now in Afghanistan, where my last coin was struck) and Urgench (now in Turkmenistan). I've been to the ruins of Konye-Urgench ('Old Urgench') and although Timur also had a go at levelling it, there are a few structures and a tall minaret still standing.

Dirham from the time of Ögedei, AH624-639/AD1227-1241
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Khorasan. Silver, 14mm, 3.2g. Caliph al-Mustansir. Be-qovvat-e aferidegar-e 'alam (A 1978K).


It's one of the first Islamic precious metal coins with a Persian legend, and reads 'By the power of the creator of the world' (with undertones of 'By the power of Grayskull').
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Ok let's have last call on the 1220s. Starting tomorrow am, let's drop back to coins minted starting in the decade of the 1210s.
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Just in time to throw in this one then

France 1223-50, denier tournois, Louis VIII or Louis IX. Silver, 0.94 g, 19 mm. Duplessy 187, Lafaurie 195, Roberts 2406.

Louis VIII reigned only 1223-26. His son Louis IX continued minting coins with the same design.

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Obv: Cross.
Inscription: LVDOVICVS REX (King Louis).

Rev: Chatel Tournois.
Inscription: TVRONVS CIVI (City of Tours).
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France 1223-50, denier tournois, Louis VIII or Louis IX

Cutting it fine . We haven't had a denier tournois for a while, so lucky you did.

Here is another denier, but from the 'crusaders'. Raymond Roupen claimed the thrones of the Principality of Antioch and Armenian Cilicia. He was Prince of Antioch from 1216-1219 but failed to claim Cilicia.

Raymond Roupen Denier, 1216-1219
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Billon. 18mm, 1.0g. +RVPINVS, bust to left, wearing helmet with chin guard and chain mail armour; crescent to left, star to right. +A•ITIOCHIA, cross pattee, inward facing crescent in upper right quadrant (cf Metcalf, Crusades 1995, class L).
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Bishopric of Krakow, 1 denar 1218-1229. Kopicki 232, Numista #124205. (CNG photos).

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Yes just under the wire @era, but a good addition to the last decade. Plus a super start to the 1210s!
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I'm already on my last coin of the decade. It's a penny of King John, often depicted as the adversary of Robin Hood but in any case usually listed amongst England's worst kings, even though he did sign Magna Carta.

John Class 6b1 Short Cross Penny, 1213-1215
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London. Silver, 18mm, 1.4g. Facing bust with sceptre; HENRICVS REX. Short voided cross, quatrefoils; +ILGER.ON.LVNDE (moneyer Ilger of London) (S 1354).
Found Romney Marsh, Kent, 2000s.
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@JohnConduitt, that is a great looking crusader denier!

And that penny by King John is interesting; it names Henry, referring to his father I guess, and I understand no English coins were issued in John's name despite him reigning for 17 years - why was that? An immobilisation?

No coins from me this decade, back in the next one (a bit earlier maybe ).
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