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Walking Back In Time From 1600 To Antiquity By Decades (V3.0)

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 Posted 04/25/2022  04:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Palouche to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@Spence...A very nice example with good detail.
Always a tough ruler to find..Paul
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 Posted 04/25/2022  6:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thx Paul!

Any other folks have coins minted starting in the decade of the 1200s? Let's plan to drop back into the decade of the 1190s starting tomorrow morning.
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1190's
Sorry this isn't within the 10 year criteria but it starts the ball rolling..
Jaga Deva..1199-1213 AD.....19mm/5.70gr...Die axis 12 o'clock.
Obverse...Ardochsho (Lakshmi) seated cross-legged facing in lalitasana (with right leg folded under and left leg hanging down), holding diadem in right hand and long-stemmed lotus in left hand, legend in Sharada script, to the left: 'Ja', to the right 'ga'.
Reverse...Highly stylized King standing facing, sacrificing at an altar to the left. Bottom right legend in Sharada script 'Deva'....Ex-William Spengler collection.
MNI..195-96..
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 Posted 04/26/2022  8:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A great start to the decade @paul!

Here is my Denaro from the Italian City State of Brindisi. Some sources ascribe it to 1196 AD, while other have the broader range of 1196-1197 AD. Either way, it is good enough for the purposes of moving our thread back. The obv legend is +FREDERIC REX while the rev legend is +E INPERATOR. I have attributed it as Biaggi 436 and Spahr 32. These little guys are somewhat hard to find, especially without some edge clipping--clearly seen on this coin.

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This is my only coin from this decade so I'm hoping others will be able to add to the collection beyond this Denaro and @paul's Jaga Deva copper.
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Very nice! I am looking more at Kingdom of Sicily myself these days but am still some decades away from posting one.
I am out for this decade, but then back in for the next several.
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I only have this, from Cilician Armenia.

Levon I Tank, 1198-1219
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Sis. Bronze, 28mm, 6.9g. Bearded leonine head of Levon I facing, wearing crown with dots; Levon king of the Armenians. Patriarchal cross with two stars in lower fields; Struck in the city of Sis (Bedoukian 696).
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Looks like Levon I had the mumps.

Seriously though, that is a great addition to this thread.
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Been a couple days since we've had a coin posted, so let's make this last call. Starting tomorrow morning we can drop back to the decade of the 1180s.
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I will start us off, but with a coin that will not move us back.
Priory of Souvigny, anonymous denier dated 1180-1213. Poey d'Avant 2169, Numista #74411

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Obv. Bust of Saint Majolus. SCS MAIOLVS
Rev. Plain cross. SILVINIACO

From the late 12th to mid 13th century the priory issued these anonymous deniers. Afterward, they bear the names of the local lords of Burgundy.
And who knew that Cistercian monks of the 10th century wore dreadlocks?

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This also doesn't move us back. I'm somewhat scraping the bottom of the barrel, in that I'm again resorting to cut coins (as I will for a while); this coin may not be from this decade (or even this ruler); and this series has been described as 'the ugliest ever struck in England'.

On Rod Blunt's website, he has this dated 1200-1204, which would be John. But Spink just has them all assigned to Richard I's reign in general, which is 1189-1199. Despite that, it's in the name of King Henry.

Richard I The Lionheart Class 4b Cut Shortcross Halfpenny (from a Penny), 1189-1199
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London. Silver, 11mm, 0.5g. Crowned bust facing, holding scepter, 7 pellets to crown, hair is single crescents, chin and side whiskers made of pellets; + hE(NRICVS R)EX. Short cross with four pellets in each angle +FVLKE (ON LVN) (S 1348C).
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On Rod Blunt's website, he has this dated 1200-1204, which would be John. But Spink just has them all assigned to Richard I's reign in general, which is 1189-1199. Despite that, it's in the name of King Henry.



Yikes!
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The Chunxi era (1174-1189) of the Southern Song dynasty was the first time that the year of issue were consistently minted on the cash coins.

This one is a 2 cash Chunxi Yuanbao from 1187. The "Shi Si" inscription on the reverse means "fourteen", representing the 14th year of the Chunxi era (1187) under Emperor Xiaozong.

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Great coins so far!

Here is a Denier Parisis from France that was minted at Arras in the time range of 1180 to 1223 AD. The obv legend is PHILIPVS REX and FRA OCN (retrograde C) while the rev legend is ARRAS CIVIS. I have attributed it as Duplessy 168 and Roberts 2562.

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Here's another cut halfpenny. At least it's better quality and firmly attributable both to the king and the decade. It even has the correct name on it.

Henry II Class 1b1 Short Cross Cut Halfpenny (from a penny), 1180-1182
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London. Silver, 20mm, 0.7g. Facing bust with sceptre; HENRIC(VS REX) with rounded E and 4 serifs on N. Short voided cross with four pellets in each quarter; +RANDVL (ON LVND) (S 1344).


It could be Class 1a4 or 1a5 (which differ by the X and the hair, neither of which are on the coin). But the fact that it's a good quality coin, when 1a coins were not, suggests it is 1b1. They were all struck from 1180-2.
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Here is a Petit Denier from the Flanders County of Ypres. It was minted in the range of 1180 to 1200 AD. There is not inscription on the obv, while the rev reads I P R A. I have attributed it as Ghyssen 2114.

For a little while, I experimented with photographing silver coins on a black background, but found that my cheap-o USB camera then makes the silver look a bit coppery. This is a good example of this phenomenon.

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