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 Posted 01/08/2009  11:37 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add hawkeye to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I'm struggling a bit with the West Point Mint. Where are these coins purchased? I'm not seeing them on the US Mint website. I'm specifically looking for the American Eagle Silver coin. I see both W and P available on ebay, but, only seem to see P (although not currently available) on the US Mint website.

After I posted this I decided to add a little clarity. I have a 2000 P Eagle. I noticed on ebay that both W's and P's are for sale for that year and I don't remember a W being an option when I ordered then. Now, for as much as I can see on the website, they seem to only offer P's.

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01/08/2009 11:57 pm
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 Posted 01/09/2009  12:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Since 2000 ALL silver eagles except the 2006 P reverse proof have been struck at West Point.

The bullion coins (what many people incorrectly call P) are only sold to a group of six authorized distributor and they are then resold to dealers ad collectors all over the country. Those are the bullion coins available at a mark up over the spot metal price. You can not buy them directly from the Mint.

The coins with a W mint mark are mainly proof coins and are sold directly to collectors by the mint (2009 W proofs are not available yet.)

In 2006, 7, and 8 the mint also sold an uncirculated version WITH the W mintmark directly to collectors. I'm not sure but I believe the W mintmarked Unc program has been dropped now.

There is additional confusion with the 2000 issue coins because the Mint sold an special set to collectors called the Millennium set that included a burnished Sac dollar and a regular 2000 silver eagle with no mint mark But since the information on COA that came with the set said the silver eagle came from West Point, some of the grading services that slabbed the coins from this set (You had to send the coin in still sealed in the set) as 2000-W even though there is no mint mark and they are no different from the millions of other 2000 silver eagles struck at West Point with no mintmark that year. That is were the listing for 2000-W uncirculated come from.

Then for even more confusion, before 2000 the proof coins were struck at different mints. The proofs were struck in San Francisco in 1986 - 1992, Philadelphia 1993 - 1999, and a special 1995 proof was struck at West Point so there are two different proof coins in 1995.
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01/09/2009 12:38 pm
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The Uncirculated and Proof Silver Eagles are going to continue to be sold by the mint in 2009. They are one of the few products that weren't dropped from the catalog.

I agree people were probably incorrectly calling the BU Eagles P.
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 Posted 01/09/2009  2:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hawkeye to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow...no wonder I'm struggling to figure this out! Thanks for taking so much to straighten me out!

Since re-entering the hobby, I've been digging through moving boxes that contained my collecion and finding bits and pieces I forgot about. This 2000 P Eagle was one of them. So when I saw both W and P 2000's on ebay I tried to figure out how I got the P and not the W. (Sill not sure I understand that part).

So, then I thought I'd try to fill in the gaps between my 2000 and the cureent 2008. I quickly found out that I'm late to the party on getting a 2008 from the mint. And, it's pricey pretty quick when buying on ebay or a dealer. (I see that 2008 UNC's are available, but for some reason I'm hooked on Proof's. Maybe I shouldn't be so snooty and take what I can get.)

I guess I really should pause and try to figure out some kind of focus within this hobby. Am I trying to fill in the blanks on my Proof Sets. Should I fill in the blanks on these Bullion coins. Or maybe fill up some cardboard albums with general circulation coins. I fear that my coin hobby might be like the rest of my life...jack of all trades and master of none!
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Information is a beautiful thing !....
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Learn something new everyday!
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in 2000 the W mint mark would have been the proof version the P version would have been the Uncirculated version
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 Posted 01/13/2009  6:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hawkeye to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Bryan1315 - not to be argumentative since I'm so new here, but the box containing my 2000 (I assume it's a P since it has no mint mark at all) says "Proof". And, I can find ad's on ebay and on various Coin site's that sell both West Point and Philadelphia Proofs. (They sell UNC. from Philadelphia too.)
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Philadelphia did not make proof silver eagles in 2000.
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Well, if Philadelphia didn't make a Proof Silver eagle in 2000, what do have? I'm not home right so I can't re-check, but the box absolutely says Proof 1oz. Silver, etc. It's in a little plush jewelry box. And, when last I looked at it I couldn't find a mint mark so I "assumed" it's a P. Obviously I need to examine it more carefully.

That said, take a look at this ebay auction. They have a PCGF Certified 2000-p Proof American Eagle. This is the auction number 160310363209.
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I have a 2000 proof silver eagle graded by PCGS. They identified the coin simply as "2000" on th label, with no mint mentioned. As far as I know there is no mint mark.
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 Posted 01/16/2009  6:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add steve199 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I know I'm confused :)

The pcgs price guide lists 2000-P as a proof. There are plenty of pics of coins on teletrade.com in past auctions that have a "P" mint mark, and are slabbed as proofs. It looks like the proofs started at West Point in 2001.



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01/16/2009 6:11 pm
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Oh, and if there is a "P" mint mark on your coin, it would be on the reverse. On the bottom left, between the "E" in "FINE" and the eagle.
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Note to self: stick to early 20th century.
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Your right, Mea Culpa. All this time I thought they switched all of the silver eagle production to West Point in 2000. Looks like I was wrong, as is the 2006 RedBook That I checked my "facts" in. They also list the 2000 proof as coming from West Point. I wonder if they had that error in other editions as well.
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