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2021 Lincoln Penny Doubled Die

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 Posted 07/28/2021  06:14 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add SmackRampage to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
So there seems to be a bit going on here...I went with doubled die on this, for if nothing else, the obverse of the coin down Lincoln's forehead and the bridge of his nose, and it appears that he has the doubled eye... Also in the lettering of GOD, the E in WE and the RST of TRUST... the reverse of the coin has a mix doubling and Machine Doubling... So would this be a legit Doubled Die? Also I'm not for sure but the markings by his ear look like they may be cracks... Any thoughts on that?
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 Posted 07/28/2021  08:19 am  Show Profile   Check -makecents-'s eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add -makecents- to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think most of what you are seeing is deterioration and lighting issues, I don't see anything that would lead me to believe this is a doubled die. The crack down the forhead and bridge of the nose is common on the shield cent, it's a weak spot in the die. When you have a doubled die on the reverse of a shield, you will see extreme thinness in EPU, this does not show that.
You need to look at several listed doubled dies so you know what to look for.
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 Posted 07/28/2021  09:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
We need to see better in focus pics with less light glare.
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The biggest issue is Machine Doubling. Note it also shows strong on the reverse with the Machine Doubling on the raised devices on one side of the devices, while the incuse EPU has the MD on the opposite side of the devices. (This is normal, as the devices are opposite each other on the raised/incuse devices and the MD is just opposite as well)
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 Posted 07/28/2021  1:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add merclover to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
with coop, there is a good deal of Machine Doubling with this coin.
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 Posted 07/28/2021  1:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Oldfordman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Machine Doubling and DDD combo.
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 Posted 07/28/2021  3:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pennyweight to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is my understanding that when the devices are thinned, it is MD. I defer to the experts explanations.
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 Posted 07/28/2021  6:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The over polished dies will make the devices look even smaller than normal size.
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On Machine Doubling the on edge is affected.
On the over polished die thinning, is the bottom the devices (widest part) is removed by the polishing, then the thinner and shorter device will appear.
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On the reverse on your coin the MD is on the top area of the devices. The bounce after the strike affected a higher area on the devices. Note on your image on 'ONE'.
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 Posted 08/01/2021  04:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SmackRampage to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I appreciate the helpful information and solid feedback!
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