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For future reference, it is the coins. It is always the coins.   |
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Next coin. Like stated a few posts back, I'm not adverse to getting a Real (Rei) if I can find one in Very Fine condition for a fair price. So today you get both my oldest coin and a Rei. The coin was minted during the reign of Jose 1, Dom Joseph I (June 6, 1714 - February 24, 1777), was King of Portugal from July 31, 1750 until his death in 1777. His government was controlled by Sebastião Jose de Carvalho e Melo, 1st Marquis of Pombal. With the death of his father in 1750, Joseph became king of Portugal. His reign witnessed, among other things, a deadly earthquake in Lisbon in 1755 and a Spanish-French invasion of Portugal in 1762. The Lisbon earthquake allowed the Marquis of Pombal to consolidate power and also caused King Joseph to develop claustrophobia, refusing to live in a walled building ever again. Afterwards, Joseph moved his court into a series of tents. A new palace was built for him in Lisbon in the aftermath of the earthquake, but this was left uncompleted. Joseph died in 1777, at which point he was succeeded by his eldest daughter, Queen Dona Maria I. The coin, this was when I got it. It has been sitting in Xylene for a day which removed majority of the surface contamination.   Issuer: Portugal King: Jose I (1750-1777) Type: Standard circulation coin Years: 1738-1776 Value: 10 Reis (10) Currency: Real (mechanical coinage, 1678-1835) Composition: Copper Weight: 13 g Diameter: 36 mm Shape: Round Orientation: Medal alignment #8593;#8593; Demonetized: Yes References: KM# 243, Gomes# Jo 07.xx, Jo 08.xx and Jo 09.xx Mintage: Unknown Edited by hfjacinto
02/16/2022 09:09 am
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The coin, this was when I got it. It has been sitting in Xylene for a day which removed majority of the surface contamination. I am sure is has improved nicely! |
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The conserved coin. It could probably stay a little bit longer, but I don't want to over do it either.   |
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The conserved coin. It could probably stay a little bit longer, but I don't want to over do it either. Much better! |
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Today's coin is also because of the bullying by several members as I didn't have a 1,000 escudos coin.  And you can guess its a 2001 Dated $1,000 Escudos. Now, you may ask yourself, BUT wasn't the Euro the money in Portugal in 2001 and the answer is "Yes" and to make it even more over the top the coin celebrates the 2004 UEFA Euro (Futebol) championship which won't occur for 3 more years and which Porto (the dragoes or Dragons) won the Championship over Monaco. So yes today's coin celebrated an event that hasn't happened and was of a currency that no longer existed. The coin (also supposed to have circulated but I never saw one).   Issuer: Portugal Period: Third Republic (1974-date) Type: Circulating commemorative coin Year: 2001 Value: 1000 Escudos (1000 PTE) Currency: Escudo (1911-2001) Composition: Silver (.500) Weight: 26.95 g Diameter: 40 mm Shape: Round Technique: Milled Orientation: Coin alignment #8593;#8595; Demonetized: 31 December 2001 References: KM# 734, Gomes# R 172.01 Mintage: 50,000  These are large coins, large than an Ike, we should have a large coins thread, the 2 1,000 Euros would fit in that thread     |
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... we should have a large coins thread, the 2 1,000 Euros would fit in that thread Like this? http://goccf.com/t/416000 |
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Thanks  jBuck, who would have thunk it!  |
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You are welcome.  |
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Coins have come in, but its too late to get pictures. Will try for tomorrow. Let's see them.   |
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Let's see them. Ed 3 of the 4 have been posted, just back a page. |
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Today's coin is one the Commems asked about and it was one on my list. The coin is the 1972 50 Escudos and it commemorates the 400th Anniversary of the Portuguese epic poem "Os Lusiadas" Os Lusíada, usually translated as The Lusiads, is a Portuguese epic poem written by Luís Vaz de Camões and first published in 1572. It is widely regarded as the most important work of Portuguese-language literature and is frequently compared to Virgil's Aeneid (1st c. BC). The work celebrates the discovery of a sea route to India by the Portuguese explorer Vasco da Gama (1469-1524). Written in Homeric fashion, the poem focuses mainly on a fantastic interpretation of the Portuguese voyages of discovery during the 15th and 16th centuries. Os Lusíadas is often regarded as Portugal's national epic, much as Virgil's Aeneid was for the Ancient Romans, or Homer's Iliad and Odyssey for the Ancient Greeks. It was written when Camões was an exile in Macau and was first printed in 1572, three years after the author returned from the Indies. The coin.   Issuer: Portugal Period: Second Republic (1926-1974) Type: Circulating commemorative coin Year: 1972 Value: 50 Escudos (50 PTE) Currency: Escudo (1911-2001) Composition: Silver (.650) Weight: 18 g Diameter: 34 mm Shape: Round Technique: Milled Orientation: Coin alignment #8593;#8595; Demonetized: Yes References: KM# 602 Mintage: 1,000,000 As an aside, the coins pre 1980's were much nicer to me than the coins after 1980. Even the silver coins of Portugal after the 80's and especially the 90's took on highly stylized characters. They lost the classic look of the older coins. This coin to me is very pretty, many of the moderns are ok. |
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While as far as I can tell this was the first coin to feature the "Os Lusiades", there were several commemoratives relased afterwards, the epic poem was featured on Portuguese Bank Notes, especially the 2000 escudos.   From the note: Eu sou aquele oculto e grande Cabo
A quem chamais vós outros Tormentório,
Que nunca a Ptolomeu, Pompônio, Estrabo,
Plínio e quantos passaram fui notório.
Aqui toda a africana costa acabo
Neste meu nunca visto promontório,
Que pera o Pólo Antártico se estende,
A quem vossa ousadia tanto ofende.Translation: I am that hidden and great Cape
Whom do you call Tormentor
That never let Ptolemy, Pomponius, Strabo,
Plínio pass, I was notorious.
Here the entire African coast ends
On this never-before-seen headland of mine,
That near the Antarctic Pole stretches,
Whom your boldness so offends.Edited by hfjacinto
02/18/2022 08:40 am
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Hfjacinto, I'm getting jealous of those beautiful new additions.
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I once purchased a Portuguese silver coin at modest premium to melt, which is now at the bank (no picture) but I believe was the Non-circulating 1994 200 Escudos, Sterling Silver, 26.5 g, Diameter 36 mm. KM# 673a.
The reason I mention it is that upon checking it out further on the Internet, I discovered that there was a platinum coin of the same year, design and diameter, although 31.12 grams. Also a Gold coin, 27.2 grams.
You would suppose that the platinum coin should have been 2000 escudos or something. That way when the coin holder dies, the heirs are less likely to sell it at silver coin prices.
It would be a nice set of coins to own.
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