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Posted 10/02/2021 09:47 am
TPG's are inconsistent, they are human, people have to just learn to accept that. Results may vary. I have sent coins I felt were deserving of a higher grade and received lower. Played the crackout game and then come back what I initially expected. There is no solid explanation to this other than, that second Grader(s) had the same opinion as me, and (just speculation) could have been more knowledgeable in that series than the first round.
Odds are, yes, if I sent this coin in (which I won't, staying in an album) it would come back "undergraded" from the group's consensus.
Again, purpose of this was to delve into the world of how die state, die wear, strike, etc. play a huge factor in the way the coin initially looked and to encourage people to not focus on just one marker for grading (the horn being a big go to for some).
Respectfully agree and disagree. Again, this comes down to the series/date/mint. Keeping in the world of Buffs, take a 1938-D for example. Typically a very well struck coin in high grades with great luster. If this had a subpar, weak strike, then yes, I would expect a TPG to ding this in the eye appeal department bc it's not expected of this year.
Compare that to a 1934-D. Worst striking issues for the 30's, good luck finding a fully struck example! Examples are almost always weakly struck with planchet marks noticeable at the high points. Bc this is common for the date, they are not dinged for eye appeal, but rather, receive a bump for better struck examples.
Same goes for die state in a lot of the 20's branch mint. Expect very mushy details in mid-high MS, and a bump for sharper, earlier die state examples.
Odds are, yes, if I sent this coin in (which I won't, staying in an album) it would come back "undergraded" from the group's consensus.
Again, purpose of this was to delve into the world of how die state, die wear, strike, etc. play a huge factor in the way the coin initially looked and to encourage people to not focus on just one marker for grading (the horn being a big go to for some).
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Furthermore, strike, whether it is an accident of circumstance or the result of die wear, polishing, brushing, mishandling, cracking or outright breaks, will influence uncirculated grades.
Furthermore, strike, whether it is an accident of circumstance or the result of die wear, polishing, brushing, mishandling, cracking or outright breaks, will influence uncirculated grades.
Respectfully agree and disagree. Again, this comes down to the series/date/mint. Keeping in the world of Buffs, take a 1938-D for example. Typically a very well struck coin in high grades with great luster. If this had a subpar, weak strike, then yes, I would expect a TPG to ding this in the eye appeal department bc it's not expected of this year.
Compare that to a 1934-D. Worst striking issues for the 30's, good luck finding a fully struck example! Examples are almost always weakly struck with planchet marks noticeable at the high points. Bc this is common for the date, they are not dinged for eye appeal, but rather, receive a bump for better struck examples.
Same goes for die state in a lot of the 20's branch mint. Expect very mushy details in mid-high MS, and a bump for sharper, earlier die state examples.
