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1865 New Foundland 1 Cent

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1865 New Foundland 1 cent- looks re punched 6 ?
plus die cracks through New Foundland and R, under bust.

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The 6 and the 8 look interesting. It also looks like it might have a coating of shellac on it?
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I agree with John on the 5 & 8 and coating. How'd that stuff get down there to Aussie-land?
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You mean Kiwi land!
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Using Barry Borselino's info on varieties I have identified it as Type I (a) - Wide Date, Large 6 over Small 6, Even 5.

I don't see any shellac either.

Nice coin, fourmack. EF-40 maybe, net grade VF-30
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To me all the numbers look to have doubling, but the 6 is the most interesting it has doubling in inner loop and outer.
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According to the book on cents and Half Cents of British North America by Jack Griffin (2006), all 1865 Newfoundland cents have a recut 6, as this happened at the matrix level.

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Comparing your image to those in the book I mentioned above, I agree that the 5 is even, but I feel it is normally spaced date, not a wide date.

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BCTokens you need to reference Barry Borselinos works to understand what variety I am describing.
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I don't have a copy of Borselino's work, but would like to. I have never known how to access it.

I do have the work by Griffin, and he classifies the O/P's coin as Gr-601f, which is a normal date.

Clearly there is a difference in our sources, which was the issue I was trying to raise.

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Yes, Don, I put down Aussie without looking ... and I've even mailed stuff down there, so I knew.!
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it looked very rough when I bought it yesterday from a shop and had been sitting in the album for about 4years.
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The bottom, outer part of the 6 is damage, not doubling.
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