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Valued Member
United States
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I am interested in a coin that is in a white label accugrade slab with the black and white photo. I am awaiting more pictures from the seller before I pull the trigger. I read accugrade has a reputation for overgraded coins but from what I can find there is reference to them having been good in their early years of grading. I think the oversized slab with the picture would be a cool collectible in itself. If it turns out to be a nice coin is there a grading company that would grade the coin but allow it to remain in the Accugrade slab?
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...is there a grading company that would grade the coin but allow it to remain in the Accugrade slab? I think I can answer this part of your question correctly, when I say "absolutely not". No grading company will formally grade a coin but keep the coin in some other slab. They don't know the slab and can't trust it to be as tamper-proof and air-resistant as one of their own slabs. And if they can't guarantee it, they won't grade it. All of the top-tier TPGs say that a coin submitted to them that isn't in one of their own slabs, or a slab from one of their top-tier rivals, is to be considered raw. They'd say they'd need to crack it out to get a good look at it. You apparently can submit a second-tier or basement-slabber for crossover, but your options are (1) they agree with the grade and reslab it in one of their own slabs, or (2) they don't agree with the grade, in which case it ships back to you still in the old slab. There is no circumstance whereby they would agree with or improve the grade but keep it in the old slab. If they re-slab, I don't know if they'd return the debris from the old slab if you asked them for it. Probably isn't standard practice. They'd probably more be of the attitude that if you want the coin pictured, an old picture of how the coin looked decades ago is irrelevant, you should pay for their own imaging service to get an up to date picture. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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United States
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What about CAC? John1  |
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CAC don't do Accugrade. They only do PCGS and NGC.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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I did not know that, thanks. John1 |
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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I think you can rely on the grade with a caveat. It actually takes fairly mad skills to be able to consistently over-grade by one point. But do recall that grading in that era was very technical, not today's market grading.
Given the current grade inflation, it's probably somewhat in the ball park.
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Valued Member
 United States
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I'm a little disappointed to say I got better pics. Accugrade graded the Morgan A2-65c deep mirror prooflike. This should be a full strike, brilliant gem deep mirror prooflike. I would buy it as a ms-63 but it's no 65. There are 3 decent bag marks on the obverse and one on the reverse. The owner seemed to fall off the radar when I asked about it being dmpl.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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All of the top-tier TPGs say that a coin submitted to them that isn't in one of their own slabs, or a slab from one of their top-tier rivals, is to be considered raw. They'd say they'd need to crack it out to get a good look at it. You apparently can submit a second-tier or basement-slabber for crossover, Unless they have changed PCGS WILL do crossovers from other companies including the second tier and basement slabbers. NGC will only do crossovers on PCGS slabbed material. |
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Valued Member
United States
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To be fair to accugrade I got an email from the sender she sent pics of the wrong coin.
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Valued Member
United States
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The pics of the right coin look like a solid 65. I can't tell by the pictures if it's really a dmpl but I went ahead and purchased it as the price was right even if it's not PL.
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Valued Member
United States
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Received the accugrade 1880-S today. I would say it's undergraded and is closer to ms-66 dmpl. Now do I crack it out and send in or just enjoy it in the earliest slabs made? Decisions decisions &  |
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Canada
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Now we need pictures of this coin!!!
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Posted 08/08/2022 03:36 am
