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Pillar of the Community
Singapore
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 Posted 02/08/2023  12:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numister to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Don't think you can restore them at NCS, NCS can't unclean coins I think.

You can try re-toning them yourself, haven't tried it with my coins but have heard other collectors doing it. Might have other threads discussing re-toning in depth.

Recently I sent in a YSK Dollar for grading, it had gorgeous toning and patina, NCS 'conserved' it now it looks all bright and shiny but with no character and the toning removed, kinda regret allowing them to do that. Shouldn't they know better?

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 Posted 02/08/2023  1:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add captainmandrake1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The grading process might help sell them since buyers will be clearer on their authenticity, but they will label them as cleaned no matter what happens since restoration removes impurities but there's no way to restore the original surfaces.
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 Posted 02/08/2023  1:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AllSeasons to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My understanding is that in some cases, NCS chooses to restore the coin to its original "shininess," which from a numismatic perspective, is actually probably not a good thing. But, it would likely remove all traces of a previous cleaning, which would allow them to assign a grade.
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 Posted 02/08/2023  4:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Andi10 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi! Please,are you sure NGC restores (?) coins? As to show not cleaned?! Is this possible?! I didn't know such things! I just knew that NGC doesn't grade cleaned coins! They just say,for ex.: ''XF details.Cleaned.'' No proper grade,only DETAILS.
Thanks!
Andi
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 Posted 02/08/2023  5:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AllSeasons to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@Andi10 Not NGC, per se, but NCS, which is a subsidiary of NGC. To me, this NCS/NGC operation is very suspect, basically a backdoor for people to pay more to get a higher grade on their coins. But if the numismatic community lets them get away with it, that's a very good way for them to make some extra money. I wouldn't believe for a second that NGC doesn't give special treatment to coins restored by NCS. But, that's how the world works. It's all about making a buck.
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 Posted 02/08/2023  9:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numister to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I get that people have to make a buck AllSeasons but at least make the process more transparent
rather than vague and evasive when customers ask them (NGC/PCGS)
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 Posted 02/09/2023  12:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AllSeasons to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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