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1918 P Buffalo Lamination And Struck-Thru?

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 Posted 02/27/2023  1:53 pm Show Profile   Check jadenusa's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add jadenusa to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Is this Buffalo showing laminations only or are there other things going on here? Lot's of complexity going on...

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 Posted 03/01/2023  8:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stoneman227 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Without a pic of the reverse, post strike damage can't be ruled out.
From what I can see with this one photo, a strike through is quite possible
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 Posted 03/02/2023  08:20 am  Show Profile   Check jadenusa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add jadenusa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's a pic of the reverse

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 Posted 03/02/2023  08:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stoneman227 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not really seeing any evidence of a lamination. It looks to be a very interesting struck through. Nice !
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 Posted 03/02/2023  11:09 am  Show Profile   Check jadenusa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add jadenusa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for looking stoneman, this seems to have our other forum alumni mostly stumped! I'm a noob with both strike-thru's and major lams, but I was thinking it could possibly be both? Maybe the strike-thru caused enough distress to surfaces that it triggered the lam? The shelf-like step down on the left side is super interesting and the depth of the impression I've never seen before.

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 Posted 03/02/2023  12:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stoneman227 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A lamination should show some type of pattern or structure of the internal metal flaws.
Here is a 1924 that split after the strike (laminated in half) . Your pics aren't detailed enough for me to tell if any of the areas that you pointed out have any recognizeabl structure of a lamination.
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 Posted 03/04/2023  4:41 pm  Show Profile   Check jadenusa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add jadenusa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Got the coin in-hand today, not sure if the attached helps clear anything up! Some of the areas are very deep.

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 Posted 03/04/2023  4:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bugil46 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In my unprofessional opinion.
The red square and oval areas are struck through.
The red circle is an area of lamination.
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 Posted 03/04/2023  6:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
given the very straight edges and corners, I would say struck through too (in the boxed in area too and slightly to the right of it as well. Over the date, looks to be a struck through too. But under the chin possibly a well worn lamination.)
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 Posted 03/05/2023  09:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with Dearborn that this is most likely a struck-through error. More specifically, it looks like it was struck through a folded or crumpled piece of very thin metal.
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 Posted 03/05/2023  09:58 am  Show Profile   Check jadenusa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add jadenusa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks guys, super cool, my first strike-through!

Is this worth slabbing or just keeping raw? The seller I bought it from told me he's had it for about 20 years.
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Definitely not worth the cost of slabbing. Unfortunately laminations are pretty common on nickels. Strike thrus are nice but don't get much of a premium.
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A Strike-through will not have the details of the braid and knot as we see them. Pre-strike laminations, and struck over that, as see on the Massachusetts Cent, for example
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My opinion is that it's all lamination/planchet flaws.
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 Posted 03/06/2023  7:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stoneman227 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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There must be some material present to fill the die for the shape of the design to resolve onto the coin.
This is my 1960-D cent that split before it was struck. The design details are missing where there was not enough material to fill the recessed design details of the die.
Simply said , if some type of material had not been present to transfer the designs to the coin metal the they would not be there. We're it a lamination with coin metal missing then the design details would not be there (as can be seen on my coin)
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