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Pillar of the Community
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I want to see an Indian Headress on Reverse upper right for some reason.
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Two edge views. Sorry that the top one is out of focus, but it does not really matter. I do not believe that a locomotive was involved. From experience, railroaded coins are curved, but not from the surface of the track. Rather, as the wheel rolls over a coin, they curve in response to the flattening so that the curve reflects the curvature of the wheel. My full hypothesis will be posted at some point on 7/30.  Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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surfacewave said:
"I also believe I can make out a portion of a reverse coin motto " one out of many" and a " portion of "ONE" in reverse order on the extended portion of the coin" Yes, this is correct. Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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( I'm not using any resource here other than practical experience from installing miles of copper tubing . ) In the first reverse photo the 2 coins actually flowed together somewhat , but not quite enough to destroy every device on the " main " coin . The surface was flat and the metal relaxed to that surface. I'm guessing somewhere in the neighborhood of 1500 - 1600 degrees , red hot but not liquid . Just after that the " Cud " coin was folded , the date is barely in tact because there is a bit more material there. An acetylene - air torch and a flat piece of steel could accomplish this in a minute . That's my swing at this . The next question is " why would someone do this " ? My guess on that would be beer , youth , both , lol. |
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I was thinking railroad coin as well until the diameter was revealed as normal (19mm).
(I figured the coins were stacked to make it easier for the train to run it over without them being "pushed" out of the way.
I'm guessing this was a creative vise job made by placing the two coins between metal plates that compressed the coins together. The second coin would have directed most of the pressure where they overlapped without affecting the diameter of this coin.
The metal plates would have flattened the design features on both sides like this coin.
EDIT: Nice exercise Hondo.
Words of encouragement are one of the major food groups.
We need to consume them regularly to thrive and grow.
Edited by Petespockets55
07/30/2023 11:00 am
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looking at the reverse the coin shows indications of annealing (darkened outer edge), I am guessing a piece of the the coin was manually clipped off and other piece added back to the coin via heat and pressure, kinda strange the right wheat stalk stops just before the extended portion. The outer edge of the extended coin seems to have the correct curvature of a penny. The gouge would prevent 100% heat transfer to the rest of the coin.
Great exercise no matter the answer, thanks
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07/30/2023 2:28 pm
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Just about everyone is overthinking this.
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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Nope. As I said, people are overthinking this. Look at the images I posted. All of the information needed to explain this coin is there. It's very simple.
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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Shoot , I missed the side view photo when I replied , and misinterpreted the shadows on the photo's on the first page.
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I know you said it appears to have doubling, but I just don't see it. It sure is messed up. When all have chimed in, would you please give us the answer to what we're seeing here. Thanks
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2 coins, one hydraulic press
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Will do, A1agrl. But I never said there was doubling.
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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Dearborn said: 2 coins, one hydraulic press The closest answer so far. And it explains all of the observable phenomena. Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
Edited by HondoB
07/30/2023 5:22 pm
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Why this is not a double-struck coinFirst, notice that there is no impression in the protruding area:  Second, if this was a double-struck coin, the demarcation line would be as worn as the obverse Lincoln, yet it is not. Third, examination of the protruding area shows mirror imaging of partial "PLURIBUS" and ONE. The reverse N is the easiest to identify.  The answer, as best as I can tell: someone placed a worn Lincoln Wheat cent on top of a worn 1918 LWC and struck it with a hammer. The reverse certainly bears testament to this being post-strike damage.  There may be other things going on with the reverse - the things that look like die chips did not come off with gentle thumbnail pressure, so they may just be further inexplicable damage. Does my hypothesis pass the test?
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
Edited by HondoB
07/30/2023 7:35 pm
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