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Bedrock of the Community
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IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Pillar of the Community
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I definitely think yours is the better of the two. The color is much more even and the face of Liberty is without a doubt better. I am very jealous for sure.
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Bedrock of the Community
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It's not even a contest - yours is MUCH nicer, Numismatic Student! Hair, face, and denticles on obverse and eagle's feathers and wreath all have much better details. Yes, yours has a few scrapes, but it is a far finer example than the PCGS one. Perhaps you should get it re-holdered by them.
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Pillar of the Community
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Agree yours has much sharper details.
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I'm mostly a lurker over in this subforum--just taking in the eye candy on most days. However, if the Wiseman coin has a bean, I can't imagine why yours wouldn't also qualify.
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IMO a quick look at the wear in the hair behind the obverse portrait ear makes it obvious that your example is at least on par if not indeed better than the companion coin. You have amazed us @NS with your world-class collection .... and I continue to remain in awe of what you have managed to assemble. Thank you for sharing your collecting updates with us.  |
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Bedrock of the Community
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Thank you @nickelsearcher and everyone in this great community. It's fun to be able to travel this journey of coin collecting with all of you.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Pillar of the Community
Taiwan
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It would be a great honor to own either coin. For me though the PCGS 45 CAC would be a no brainer. It is more desirable with a CAC endorsement and of far greater value.
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Pillar of the Community
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Hands down, your's is much more appealing in both color and details. Beautiful piece!
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Bedrock of the Community
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Yours is better.
Errers and Varietys.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Thanks for all of your thoughts. @kbbpll, I'm not sure if comparison to the Eric Newman is fair as it is graded higher. As such, I think the Newman coin deserves the higher grade and has less wear than my coin. For ease of comparison, I again show them side by side.   IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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The Troy Wiseman coin sold for $264,500 in 2006. It's already bid up above that to $300,000 with 12 days to go. It will be a bellwether for the strength of the higher end of the market. Another fun comparison is with the 1794 dollar that was in the famous Louis Eliasberg complete collection of U.S. coins. That coin was graded XF45 by PCGS. Looking at it side-by-side, it does not appear to be in a higher grade than my example IMHO.   IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Pillar of the Community
Taiwan
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The 1794 NGC XF 45 dollar is not in the same ballpark as the other 1794 PCGS dollars that are pictured. It is in an NGC holder for a reason. It was previously in a PCGS Genuine XF Details Altered Surfaces holder.
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11/04/2023 09:48 am
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Bedrock of the Community
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after looking at all the comparisons i'd say yours is a better example than the weisman and eliasberg. don't think it would edge out the newman as well as kbbpll's example as an AU50 grade. thanks for sharing those. interesting compare
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I wish I owned a $300,000 coin.
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