1966 SMS Kennedy Half Dollar Doubled Die Obverse / DDO . - Page 2

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Errers and Varietys Bedrock of the Community United States 74233 Posts	Posted 12/19/2023 1:09 pm Nice find! Errers and Varietys. Report this Post to the Staff
Brandmeister Pillar of the Community United States 6506 Posts	Posted 12/19/2023 4:07 pm Quote: The real answer is yes! Your half dollar is the 66 SMS DDO-013, and FS-50-1966-103 (13.8). The doubling on the hair strands under the B in LIBERTY in your photo is proof. The only half dollar (1966 SMS) with that doubling on those hair strands in the CONECA Master Listing is the DDO-013, FS-103. Well, that's pretty exciting. =) Thanks especially to atrox and Silviosi for the help. I definitely learned a lot on this coin, and it was a really satisfying treasure hunt. There are a few final questions that I had on this coin: 1. Is the sense that this coin lacks the 103 markers because it is an earlier die state? Because my nascent photography is terrible? Or perhaps this is a later die state that has been re-polished to continue striking SMS halves for mint sets? 2. I probably won't slab. But I suppose it's worth asking the question on whether or not it would be a good idea for this particular coin. 3. Atrox, can I ask how you take such great photos? Your detail shots are phenomenal. Report this Post to the Staff
atrox001 Valued Member United States 311 Posts	Posted 12/19/2023 6:19 pm Brandmeister: When I said there was only one SMS with the doubling on the hair strands under the B, I was wrong about that. After you said there was no markers on your half that matched FS-103, DDO-013, I took a look again at the 66 SMS's. I see there are 8 of them. I was looking at the wrong angle. This time I see there are two SMS's where the doubling is very similar, DDO-013 FS103, and DDO-020, FS-106, and with your photos. You can see the IN is different, I think your half looks more like the DDO-020, FS-106, not the DDO-013 FS-103. Attached are some photos of the two IN's DDO-013 and DDO-020, also some photos of markers, stage A or B from the DDO-020, die scratches and short die gouges around the T of LBERTY and small die gouge under left of W in WE. Edited by atrox001 12/19/2023 6:33 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Brandmeister Pillar of the Community United States 6506 Posts	Posted 12/19/2023 9:03 pm Yeah, when you wrote that, I went back and checked Variety Vista, because I remembered multiple listings with doubled hair. In fact, some listings are primarily just doubled lips, ear, hair. I assumed what you meant was more along the lines of "the only one with doubled hair under the B with this particular set of IGWT doubling". Report this Post to the Staff
Brandmeister Pillar of the Community United States 6506 Posts	Posted 12/19/2023 9:18 pm btw, I did think that FS-106 could be a match. What steered me away from it was that the doubling on the E is much less extreme on both the VV and PCGS examples. With no markers listed, I am not sure how to confirm or refute that particular variety. tbh, I also found it somewhat confusing that the early die state does not show splits on the L corner, but then the middle die state shows a clear separation on the flourish. Odd that it would materialize as the die state degrades, unless the EDS example is a poor strike. I have been really hesitant to read anything into the 1966 numbers themselves, just because we know there is hub and series doubling in play on these Kennedy halves. Report this Post to the Staff
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