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For Grading - 1881 O Morgan Dollar

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 Posted 01/13/2024  06:52 am  Show Profile   Check HumblePie's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add HumblePie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry for the poor photos and the delay of new photos, I hope these are better. On my first post I added 2 photos where I dropped light in the middle of the coin to expose the fields, those photos got deleted. I feel those would help with the PL designation. I don't want to be disrespectful and add those back unless I'm told it is okay to do so.

The holder has a lot of scuff on the obverse side. Mostly from the front of the forehead through the back of the cap area, to the top of the coin.

I changed the setting quite a bit to hopefully brighten up the photo, lighting has been a real challenge with my new equipment.


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 Posted 01/13/2024  07:37 am  Show Profile   Check HumblePie's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add HumblePie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
PCI has the coin at MS63DMPL. I felt like the coin was 63PL, although I feel the reverse could make DMPL, the obverse is not quite as nice, but really close.


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 Posted 01/13/2024  08:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I could see 62-63PL. DMPL is going to depend on depth of fields - if it were in a modern PCGS or NGC DMPL holder, I'd put a little more faith in that designation.
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Your latest angled photo shows a little more chatter on the cheek. It still appears to have PL fields, but I would probably drop to 63 based on these photos. Still a very nice '81-O.
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It looks 62PL based on the fields but has an extremely clean cheek. It is very rare that all the chatter is in the fields and none appears in the cheek which is higher. If you think about what the odds are that a coin rolls around in a 1,000 coin bag and experiences hits only in the fields, it would be pretty low. In that sense it is pretty special. This dynamic is maybe more likely in a proof coin, but looking at the denticles, this coin does not look proof. Nice looking coin though.
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new photos. still at MS62PL
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I did not realize this was slabbed when I first posted but remain at 63. Any mark gets magnified by the mirrors on the fields resulting in
them looking larger when photographed. Mirrors look good but as others have said gold PCI slabs tend to be too generous.
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