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Grandfather Passes Away And Left Me This Coin W/Pics

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 Posted 04/30/2009  7:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add QuickSilver to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry, I apologise if that was out of line. Seems like we have had pages of requests to see a pic without success.

sdexcid has asked for professional opinions on a coin we have not yet seen and are all excited to see.

So let's go! OR If there is no coin let's finish this thread. That's all I meant.
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 Posted 04/30/2009  7:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add xshift to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I hear ya ... I'm wanting to see it, as well
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 Posted 04/30/2009  7:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Starman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
yeah,

i inherited a couple 1913 Liberty nickels and a 1804 silver dollar but I dont want to post pics of them because there in my bank deposit box.
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 Posted 04/30/2009  7:22 pm  Show Profile   Check GO's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GO to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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and a 1804 silver dollar

19 are known to exist and they sell for millions of dollars. Once again we gots to sees it to believes it
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 Posted 04/30/2009  7:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sdexcid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
haha not a coin shop. The vice president of the museum. They took pictures of it and met with some members on the board. Than they offered that amount and advised me to get a lawyer. Once it's sold there will be a news segment all about it on CBCnews.
They also offered me $1,150 CAD for that 1897 coin. Which doesn't compare to $5,000,000 but is still interesting.
I did not weigh it or touch it after I found out what it most likely is. I put it in a case and kept it there so I couldnt do any harm to it.

As for the "cia" comment it was the suggestion of the museum that I keep it in a safety box because who knows what will happen with such a rare coin. And "put up or shut up" how about you grow up and it's going to be funny how big of an class act you sound like once it's shown on CBCnews and wherever else. As the guy telling people to shut up just because.

Mod - I take offence because this is a coin forum. I am asking about information on the coin so I am well informed with advice from everywhere. I explained my situation. I was called a liar at first until I got you pictures of other coins, including a rare 1897 that was left for me. I think it's more than understandable to suggest I am not going to take a 5 million dollar coin out of a box just to prove it to a couple of people until its safe to do so.

I have no reason to make something up like this. As promised once I know what is going to be done I will share all the pictures I can. Until than, just because I cant show it right this second, Its quite inappropriate for a coin forum to try and flame people for asking questions.

If there is positive comments with advice and information about it than I will appreciate it. If not than I guess there is no reason to show pictures to people who call others liars for no reason whatsoever. Why would I? Ill probably just end up sending the pictures to the moderator who helped me and the other couple people who actually had some kind of input on here that wasnt completely negative and ignorant.


Most of these coins that were made were actually melted down.
Any remaining coins that were known about were taken by government officials.
There is no other coin on the planet that comes close to the price of this one.
This coin most likely came from an Isreali collector. Could make sense since my Grandfathers dad lived in Isreal for 11 years.
Apparantley nobody off the street can just own one of these because they are owned by the government. Something like that anyways.
Almost 100% of fake coins have copy stamped across them.
They were unsure about this but suggested somehow I would have to buy rights to own such a coin to be able to sell it. Hence the suggestion also for a lawyer.

This is basically what I was told by the museum. I am look and speaking to tonnes of other people so I become familiar with this as mucha s possible. I dont really want to get in any kind of trouble or ripped off.

Anyways I will check in to see if any professionals or people have information or advice on it. Previous sales of some of th eother coins. The information that I was told by their people is this.

Thanks
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04/30/2009 7:33 pm
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 Posted 04/30/2009  7:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wd1040 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, if it has that much value and was given to me by my grandfather, they can pry the coin away from my cold dead hands!

**By the way, if it's $5 million (I think... I didn't really read your past post that closely... forgive me) I would recommend getting a Russian doll set of safes. What an amazing piece of history to have! Congrats!
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04/30/2009 7:29 pm
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 Posted 04/30/2009  7:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sdexcid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
posted above wd's last post
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 Posted 04/30/2009  7:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Starman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It was Sarcasm actually I wasnt serious... I have only a couple coins worth 7 dollars let alone one thats worth over a million
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 Posted 04/30/2009  7:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add QuickSilver to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have called no one a liar. I have merely requested that if you want opinions on this coin you post a pic or two, otherwise it is impossible to offer any opinion at all.

Since you now realise how extremely rare and valuable this coin is you can understand our scepticism.

It was you yourself that offered to post pictures as proof but now are reluctant to do so. I believe you said that the museum to which you submitted your coin for verification took pictures. One would assume as the owner of the coin they released these to you. Therefore you should have no need to remove the coin from it's current location?

Can anyone confirm if the US government would have any powers to confiscate this coin once it is out of the country?
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 Posted 04/30/2009  7:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sdexcid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
im talking about calling me a liar about the 1897..... until I sent it to the moderator to have the right one posted properly as I dont know how to do any of this.

The pictures were kept by the vice president of the museum because he wanted to show it to a few others for further opinions. If I had pictures....Id show them...obviously I do not....The biggest issue they all have is the legality of it all.

What I am saying is it has been confirmed real. Everyone here knows what it looks like. There are pictures on a previous page. Take it as its real and any information given is appreciated. I dont need it to be verified if real or not anymore. It has been confirmed....

So we wait and see how this plays out
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04/30/2009 7:53 pm
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I'm still not sure it's illegal since it's not in the US. It's illegal for US citizens/residents to own them, but I don't know about in other countries. (Israel for example)? Does anyone know?

It's like all the counterfeit US coins in China. Nothing they can do about that, outside of their own borders.
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 Posted 04/30/2009  8:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sdexcid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ya they are not sure either right now. All they said was they are owned by the american government and they think its illegal to own them or try and sell them...I dont know its all confusing to me....
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 Posted 05/01/2009  12:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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haha not a coin shop. The vice president of the museum.

Sorry, there is not a single person in Canada qualified to definitively authenticate a 1933 Double Eagle much less anyone up there that has ever actually handled one. There are only a mere handful of people in the US capable of that task. Not to mention that merely examining a coin will not be good enough, you have to perform detailed analyses like SEM-XRF. Until 1996, the only two coins in existence were locked up in the National Numismatic Collection at the Smithsonian and the purported Farouk specimen that emerged in 1996 has been in private hands since 2002.

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Almost 100% of fake coins have copy stamped across them.

That is an incredibly naive statement to make and you greatly underestimate the Chinese. Just because the US Hobby Protection Act deems that all copies be clearly labeled with "COPY", that does not mean that non-domestic counterfeiters adhere to it.

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I think I have proved way beyond any means that this is true

You have not proven anything besides your evasiveness. You claim to post a pic then it is pointed out that it was a ripped pic of the Farouk specimen but of course, you claim that the photos were mixed up. You are not the first person to come here with outlandish and unrealistic claims and I am sure you won't be the last but it is getting a bit stale...
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05/01/2009 01:00 am
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 Posted 05/01/2009  12:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BlackSheep to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting topic. I'm looking forward to some safe deposit pictures

I hope it's real
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 Posted 05/01/2009  08:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trdhrdr007 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Most of these coins that were made were actually melted down.
Any remaining coins that were known about were taken by government officials.
There is no other coin on the planet that comes close to the price of this one.
This coin most likely came from an Isreali collector. Could make sense since my Grandfathers dad lived in Isreal for 11 years.
Apparantley nobody off the street can just own one of these because they are owned by the government. Something like that anyways.
Almost 100% of fake coins have copy stamped across them.
They were unsure about this but suggested somehow I would have to buy rights to own such a coin to be able to sell it. Hence the suggestion also for a lawyer.


Assuming you are not just yanking our chain & that you do indeed have this coin in your possession you need to have it authenticated by someone who actually knows something about coins. The sentence I highlighted in red is so far off base that it negates everything else the "expert" told you.

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