PCGS Proof And Specimen And Why Not Proof Like

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Moniker Pillar of the Community Sweden 1812 Posts	Posted 06/11/2024 09:46 am I see sometimes pcgs-slabbed coins with the grade PF on coins that to my knowledge was not produced as proofs. This is coins from late 1800s. So my question is why do they call them PF and not PL on some occations. found this distinction Proof: A frosted relief over a brilliant field. Reverse proof: Brilliant, reflective or mirror-like details on a frosted or slightly matte field. Specimen: A brilliant image relief against a matte or lined background. asking for a friend...... Edited by Moniker 06/11/2024 09:46 am Report this Post to the Staff

Marv65 Bedrock of the Community United States 10470 Posts	Posted 06/11/2024 11:40 am Here ya go: https://www.pcgs.com/news/differenc...oflike-coins Report this Post to the Staff
Moniker Pillar of the Community Sweden 1812 Posts	Posted 06/11/2024 11:48 am Thank you Marve but I'm still confused since there are coins labeled as proof when no proof was struck according to sources Edited by Moniker 06/11/2024 11:48 am Report this Post to the Staff
Alpha2814 Pillar of the Community United States 2023 Posts	Posted 06/11/2024 12:54 pm Do you have a specific example, perhaps a picture of one of these slabbed coins? This article lists a bunch of proof coins going back to 1821: https://www.ngccoin.com/news/articl...proof-coins/ -- and there are lots of proof coins after that, e.g. $3 from 1854 through 1889: https://www.pcgs.com/prices/detail/...st-active/pr Edited by Alpha2814 06/11/2024 12:55 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Moniker Pillar of the Community Sweden 1812 Posts	Posted 06/11/2024 2:59 pm yes this for example Report this Post to the Staff
Marv65 Bedrock of the Community United States 10470 Posts	Posted 06/11/2024 3:24 pm Can't offer any advice,I know nothing about foreign coins. Maybe try the foreign coin forum? Report this Post to the Staff
Moniker Pillar of the Community Sweden 1812 Posts	Posted 06/11/2024 5:14 pm Thanks for effort thou, was more a general question about the proof when used by tpgs, not the specific example. I find it somewhat confusing. Edited by Moniker 06/11/2024 5:18 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Sap Moderator Australia 16805 Posts	Posted 06/11/2024 6:40 pm The TPGs are usually pretty knowledgeable about when proof coins were actually made for US coins, so don't make this mistake there. For non-US coins, they are less knowledgeable, and can make mistakes. I know that the TPGs have in the past graded some Australian predecimal coins as "Proof" when no such proof coins actually exist, for example. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Report this Post to the Staff
Pacificoin Pillar of the Community Canada 5391 Posts	Posted 06/11/2024 7:10 pm That is not a proof . Obvious error on NGC part . Report this Post to the Staff
Moniker Pillar of the Community Sweden 1812 Posts	Posted 06/12/2024 02:49 am Thank you, yes I have also seen pcgs labeled them as proofs: So maybe it when they re in a good mood and think they deserve a proof label Edited by Moniker 06/12/2024 02:57 am Report this Post to the Staff
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