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A dokdo from the Princely state of Nawanagar, with the frozen date of AH 978 - 1570 C.E. Nawanagar was founded in AD 1540 by Jam Sri Rawalji. This coin belongs to the series of dump coins issued by Sataji Vibhaji, the 3rd ruler of Nawanagar from AD 1569 to AD 1608. These are stylized imitations of the coins of Muzaffar Shah III (AD 1560 to AD 1574) of Sultanate of Gujarat (India - Islamic) and bear the inscription, 'Sri Jamji', the title of all rulers of Nawanagar. According to Krause (who never get it wrong) "However, attribution of any particular coin to the British control period is rejected in Krause, while including these coins in the 19th century catalogue it makes note "The former attribution of these coins to Ranmalji II (1820-1852 AD) is incorrect" (p.658) and leaves the dating open at circa 1570 - 1850." A dated coin is a dated coin, so I am putting it out there regardless.  1 Dokdo - AH 978 / 1570 C.E. 18mm 7,55g Cu KM#2  The Ox moves slowly, but the Earth is patient.
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Seems to me a frozen date type fits the spirit of the thread. 1569 4 groats of Lithuania (or Poland-Lithuania depending on how you look at things).   Sigismund II ruled as King of Poland and Grand Duke of Lithuania from 1548 to 1569 in a "personal union" (one sovereign ruling to states). The 1569 Union of Lublin formalized the joining of the two states as the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. Sigismund II used Vilnius (Lithuania) as his only "royal mint." (his father has used Krakow and Vilnius; the next ruler to strike coins, Stefan Bathory, used Olkusz, Poznan and Vilnius). So many of the types he struck in Vilnius would have circulated in both Poland and Lithuania, though there were some differences in the monetary standards of the two places. My first time through How Far Back I called these Polish, but I'm now following the convention used in Numista and elsewhere of calling them Lithuanian. |
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Same type, 1568   |
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My first time through How Far Back I called these Polish, but I'm now following the convention used in Numista and elsewhere of calling them Lithuanian. As far as I'm concerned it says whose it is right there on the coin - MONETA MAGNI DVCAT LITVA. If it was a Polish coin it would have said MONETA REGNI POLON or something. (Numista counts a bunch of local city issues of [e.g.] Gdansk under Sigismund II as Polish coins. I'm mostly unconvinced.) |
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Here is a Groschen from the Swiss Canton of St. Gall dated 15(68):   "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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(Numista counts a bunch of local city issues of [e.g.] Gdansk under Sigismund II as Polish coins. I'm mostly unconvinced.) From a political viewpoint, Gdansk was part of Poland from 1466 as best I can tell. From a numismatic viewpoint, Gdansk was never one of the Polish "crown" mints, it was always a city mint. So ... take your pick. |
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either way, it is a nice coin..  |
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Lithuania 1567 2 denars:   |
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Fantastic examples!  |
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Pillar of the Community
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 looking good! The Ox moves slowly, but the Earth is patient.
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Here is a Groschen from the Swiss Canton of St. Gall I love that bear on St. Gall coins. 1566 Lithuanian groat:   |
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1566 Lithuanian groat: Very nice! |
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I have a Groschen from the German Electorate of Saxony-Albertine for today:   Here is a closeup of the two-digit date:  "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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I have a Groschen from the German Electorate of Saxony-Albertine Was that one supposed to be a challenge for us?  I think I found one of the 6es in the date... Is there only one? For 1565, the first Lithuania half groat on the thread (but certainly not the last).   Edited by tdziemia
08/07/2024 08:30 am
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some nice additions lately. I hope to add one at some point
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