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Walking Back From 1600 With Dated Coins

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 Posted 09/18/2024  07:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Such a nice one!

A more common 1523 Lithuanian half-groat:
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 Posted 09/18/2024  08:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add t360 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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 Posted 09/18/2024  8:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add samoth to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I think we're probably still a few months from a gap with a dated coin


And still weeks from the best part of this thread!

(Did anyone here pick up the 1496 noble from the Bruun collection? Anyone?)
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 Posted 09/19/2024  09:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I guess that's the highest price ever fetched for a Danish coin. I think we had a thread on that collection out here.

Strange to me that the coin is called a noble and not a double noble at that weight, but I guess if you have a million dollar coin to sell you can call it whatever you want

Another Lithuanian half groat for 1522 (about 500 of them to a Danish noble as best I can tell):
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My only recent early dated pickup is a 1473 Deventer coin (I hope I wasn't bidding against you). I bid on a 1444 Cologne weisspfennig recently at Teutoburger but the bidding went a lot higher than I expected for the condition of the coin.
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 Posted 09/19/2024  09:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Another Lithuanian half groat for 1522 (about 500 of them to a Danish noble as best I can tell):
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I guess that's the highest price ever fetched for a Danish coin.

And a record price for an early dated coin, too.

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My only recent early dated pickup is a 1473 Deventer coin (I hope I wasn't bidding against you). I bid on a 1444 Cologne weisspfennig recently at Teutoburger but the bidding went a lot higher than I expected for the condition of the coin.

I only bid on a couple briquets at that auction, but didn't win anything. The upcoming Kunker has some nice stuivers of similar type to your '73.

Prices seem to have been going up across the board, which isn't unexpected given the increase in the money supply over the past few years. It's still painful to see from a buyer perspective, though (especially since I still need to buy a camera setup to post pictures in threads like these...).
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 Posted 09/19/2024  6:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
1522 is my first entry in a while - also a Lithuanian half-groat...

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My next entries are 1521, 1517, and 1511, but after that I don't have anything for another (almost) two months until we get to 1452.
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The upcoming Kunker has some nice stuivers of similar type to your '73.


It's quite a nice "Dutch" collection being sold... I am missing a dated 1471 (I've got an Italian that is confidently attributed to the date), so I'll probably be in on one of those Deventer coins. Also looking at the 1488 Guelders coin, but I think the estimate is a joke and it will wind up at least 5X higher, leaving me in the dust.

NIce halfgroat, j1m. For 1521 I have a batzen from Ottingen (that's Saint Sebastian whose martyrdom was being used as an archery target):
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Super nice remaining detail on that Batzen @tdz. I've got this Lithuanian Half Groschen:

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This 1521 Salzburg pfennig was purchased for the original How Far Back Can We Go thread, back in 2013. I tried to post it in all the later iterations but IIRC I missed one or two for some reason(s) I don't currently recall.

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...this photo is from 2013 and somehow AFAIK I never got around to making a pic of the other side. (The other side is blank - it's an uniface coin.)


I've long wondered what the funky flower in the shield was (you can kind of see it on Spence's 1525 Salzburg zweier from last page).
As I recall, after a few discussions about it, eventually we figured out that it was a mix-and-match - left side rose, right side lily.

...I wonder what would the SCA heraldry folks have thought about it. I'm guessing probably something to the effect of "nope, absolutely nope, you can't possibly get away with that kind of shenanigans, wait hold on did you say 1525?"
(I actually don't know what the blazon for that would have looked like.)
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I like it @j1m. Meanwhile, I'm in the middle of a Lithuanian run:

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1520 half groat from the city of Swidnica (Schweidnitz), Silesia, made to imitate earlier Polish half groats struck 1507-1510 (which we will see soon enough).

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And back to Lithuanian half groats with this 1519:
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