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Oh yes, I do

That is the Duplessy reference number for the 2nd emission of double parisis, 21 Aug. The 1st emission has number 270.


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@ttk that is an impressive spreadsheet--I get the feeling that @j1m maintains something similar, while I struggle just to keep track of my own coins. Glad you both are around here to keep the rest of us organized!
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Something's going weird with the dates, one way or the other. I know I've calculated the upcoming round numbers at one point...

...or at two points, actually.


Page 26, at 1500...
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Some of the next expected milestones, if I hadn't miscounted the dates...

1475 - November 5th
1450 - November 30th
1425 - December 25th
1400 - January 19th
1350 - March 10th
1300 - April 29th
1200 - August 7th

Page 41, at 1450...
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Upcoming milestones:

1440 - December 10th
1430 - December 20th
1420 - December 30th
1410 - January 9th
1400 - January 19th
1375 - February 13th
1350 - March 10th
1325 - April 4th
1300 - April 29th
1250 - June 18th
1200 - August 7th
1100 - November 15th

Looks like I didn't do a listing like this when we got to 1400, though.

TL/DR: March has 31 days, so April 1st is 21, not 20, days after March 11th. I'm guessing you accidentally counted an extra day for the doubled-up AH date around 1341.


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I get the feeling that @j1m maintains something similar, while I struggle just to keep track of my own coins.
...alas, no. My listings are based on my own previous listings + a lot of reading through the corresponding threads + a few coins I happened to remember from other contexts.

I struggle to keep track of my own coins, as well. (Numista helps a lot, but not remotely enough, especially for medieval and ancient coins.) If/when I make it back to Moscow, maybe I'll try starting a spreadsheet...
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TL/DR: March has 31 days, so April 1st is 21, not 20, days after March 11th. I'm guessing you accidentally counted an extra day for the doubled-up AH date around 1341.

Yes, I think you are correct. I'm not on my pc ATM.
But it must be, and not for the first time. Those dubious AH years require me to add the blank row . I'll correct it in the light of day as it is a bit after 4 in the morning here, and SWMBO would certainly take a dim view of it happening now.
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Looking forward to (hopefully) finally getting some activity on the How Far Back frontier.

I've purchased a lower grade 1350 2nd emission Double Parisis, and expect delivery by April (not May!) 11th.
I'll keep chipping away at the mid 1300s as I can. And looking for a cheaper Duplessy, the one I found in an on-line store in Paris as over 80 euros delivered to Australia - about $146 AUD
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TL/DR: March has 31 days, so April 1st is 21, not 20, days after March 11th. I'm guessing you accidentally counted an extra day for the doubled-up AH date around 1341.


Well spotted @jim Sherlock.
Exactly correct

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Been a while since I checked on this thread. Looks like we're on 1342 today.

Current gap listing: 1464-2, 1457, 1454, 1446, 1414, 1409-7, 1385-1, 1367, 1363, (1361?,) 1360, 1356, 1350-43, and it looks like there'd be a few more gaps after that.
We have crossed the 90% line sometime early this week, so, as promised, I compressed the listing a bit.

...I didn't remember the 1340s being that empty in the How Far Back listings; I'm guessing it's probably mostly JohnConduitt and their Golden Horde coins.
My next entry is 734 AH = 1334 (then a very dubious 723 AH = 1323, then nothing for a while unless I manage to buy something relevant in Moscow).
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So on checking, I do have an entry for 1343 (AH 747)
It's a Golden Horde, Jani Beg Pul "Two-headed eagle type"
Lebedev m50 -1 b, Pyr 120, Zeno cat 1773, Numista 124812
Obv: Distorted Arabic inscription in a double square inscribed in a circle with ovals in each outer segment
Translation:
Mint of Qrim
in a year four
forty seven hundred
Rev: Two-headed eagle In a linear circle.

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So on checking, I do have an entry for 1343 (AH 747)
...actually AH 744, which is probably a typo because the conversion to 1343 AD is correct.

Updated gap listing: 1464-2, 1457, 1454, 1446, 1414, 1409-7, 1385-1, 1367, 1363, (1361?,) 1360, 1356, 1350-44, 1342-1. Probably a few more gaps before we get active again.

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...I didn't remember the 1340s being that empty in the How Far Back listings; I'm guessing it's probably mostly JohnConduitt and their Golden Horde coins.
Here's what the relevant section looks like in the How Far Back listings, as of August 2024...

1349 - JohnConduitt
1348 (AH 749) - none found
1347 - tdziemia
1346 - JohnConduitt, Spence
1345 (AH 746) - none found
1344 - tdziemia, ttkoo
1343 - tdziemia, Spence
1342 - ttkoo

Given what I know of @tdziemia's collecting themes, I'm guessing that any pre-1374 coins they might have are almost certainly datable rather than directly dated. So it's partly JohnConduitt (and their Golden Horde coverage), and partly just luck in most of the offerings for this period being undated.
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So on checking, I do have an entry for 1343 (AH 747)

You'dthink I coold go more then 1 day with0ut makeing a spelling eror or typo
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Given what I know of @tdziemia's collecting themes, I'm guessing that any pre-1374 coins they might have are almost certainly datable rather than directly dated


That's correct. I have only one dated coin before 1430, an AH dated Sicily coin from the Norman era, somewhere around 1100 AD if I recall.
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1338 CE (AH 738) Delhi Sultans 6 Gani


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