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I'm getting close to finishing my 1936 proof set, at least the way I define it. I have the three larger denominations and the brilliant nickel PCGS. I've never been a huge fan of the satin coins for exactly the reason the public wasn't excited about in 1936, but a dealer was saying I need both satin and brilliant. That is true for the PCGS registry, but my question is, how exactly were these sold in 1936?

I've seen an original envelope sold through an auction house before, and in that case, it looked like it was the five brilliant coins only. Did you always get a 5 coin set with the cent and nickel whatever finish was available at the time or could you get a 7 coin set later in the year?

I guess there's a similar question with the 1942 sets with the two types of nickels.
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yes, for a PCGS full set, you will need both. I'm in the same bag there, I have the brilliant, but need the satin and can't find one that I 'want' to afford. (at least for the Lincoln Cent
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I wouldn't have thought this fell under "modern coins".
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Can someone show us pics of the satin proofs?
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Did you always get a 5 coin set with the cent and nickel whatever finish was available at the time


You got whatever they sent you, as I recall they didn't intend on making a brilliant and a satin. It was just a consequence of the minting process.
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I did finally break down and purchase the brilliant Lincoln proof in PR66. I'm not sure if I want to buy the rest of the set next or the satin Lincoln? Either way it's all a lot of $
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I did finally break down and purchase the brilliant Lincoln proof in PR66.
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I'm not sure if I want to buy the rest of the set next or the satin Lincoln?

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Either way it's all a lot of $
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I did finally break down and purchase the brilliant Lincoln proof in PR66. I'm not sure if I want to buy the rest of the set next or the satin Lincoln? Either way it's all a lot of $


I still don't have a 1936 proof, too expensive. I have all the proof Lincoln except that dang 1936, the MPLs & shield cents.
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I'm skipping the pre-1950 proofs for now. If I do get any, they'll be stabbed so I didn't put any spots in the Danscos for them.
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No satin finish silver coins were produced in 1936 because the mint said they couldn't get the process to work properly for those blanks. They did produce satin and brilliant finish cents and nickels. The first proof cents and nickels produced in 1936 were of the satin variety as they had been in earlier years. In fact, there were more satin finish proofs produced in 1936 than brilliant. But reports conclude that there are an equal number of both surviving. Problem was, they couldn't be quickly differentiated from the circulation strikes and many are thought to have been spent unaware.

These were two distinct die preparations, one for satin and one for brilliant. I have none of these early proof coins, but I personally think a satin finish Lincoln proof is beautiful, even more attractive that the brilliant version. To be honest I think the brilliant proof buffalos are much more attractive than the satin finish. I can see why most people would not be able to tell the difference between a mint state buffalo from a fresh die and the satin proof.
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Good input, thanks.
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Bump111, thanks for the clarification.
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These were two distinct die preparations, one for satin and one for brilliant.


If memory serves me, which it doesn't very well at my age... All of the starting planchets were already polished to a mirror finish. To get the matte finish sandblasting was used on the working dies but the satin finish dulled too quickly during production. They decided to go back to brilliant because it was much easier to simply polish the dies if needed.


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I have none of these early proof coins, but I personally think a satin finish Lincoln proof is beautiful, even more attractive that the brilliant version.


I've seen many examples and the satin finish is a lot nicer to my eye!
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