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Hey all, I posted pictures of the Obverse of this coin in the grading forum yesterday looking for opinions on the surface. I did not include pictures of the Reverse because I wanted the discussion to be about the surface and not the VAM, but I think my vagueness may have hampered people's ability to properly evaluate the coin. It appears to be a VAM-1A1, weakly struck, with parallel lines across the cheek extending into the hair. The obverse surface has kind of a grainy texture to it and I'm trying to determine if this could possibly be related to the weak strike and/or die polishing, or if it is from cleaning, environmental damage, or some sort of alteration like overdipping or whizzing. All opinions are welcome and appreciated as always.    |
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Is that a die clash on the reverse between the tail feathers and the branch. Don't know a lot about Morgan's but looks like an old cleaning to me a lot of scratches moving in all directions. But I'm not the most experienced. So let's see what others have to say.
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Thanks for the link first time to VAM world for me the clash may explain some of what I see I'm going to keep my nose out of this one and be a watcher and a learner. |
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That is a strong clash E there!
I would have to send it off to John (messydesk) to have it graded and attributed.
I'm just a little concerned about the surfaces...
Hope she straight grades for you...Good luck!
smat
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I love the E clashes. As I said in your other thread (which has apparently disappeared), I think the lines on the cheek are roller lines. They don't have the appearance of planchet striations, and die polishing lines are typically on the fields, not on the devices. I still think the obverse surfaces are not original, and the graininess can't really be explained by a soft strike.
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Thank you Zurie. I found a comparable 1891-O on Coinfacts, can you tell me if these also appear to be roller marks:  Thanks again! |
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Yes, those are roller lines, similar to yours, but without the surface disturbance.
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Thank you again, I always wondered what caused that type of striation. Now I know what to call it. Any guesses on what could've caused the surface disturbance? I'd think it would likely be some sort of chemical or environmental damage as it seems to be in the nooks and crannies, but I'd appreciate the opinion.
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one of my favorite VAMs. thanks for posting this!
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Thanks @MrPink2018. I actually forgot to update this since I got her back from grading, so here are the results for everyone:  |
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Congratulations on your submission and results!
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Posted 03/27/2025 09:57 am
