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Curious 'Coin' Ressembling A Spanish Colonial Cob 1/2 Escudo

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 Posted 09/24/2025  09:16 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add GERMANICVS to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I say resembling because I have never seen one like it.

Is it possibly a novelty made for jewelry ?

It weighs 1,65 grams and measures 13x14 mm approximately.
Looks and 'feels' like gold.

Looking forward to your opinions,


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 Posted 09/25/2025  12:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd assume it's a "made for jewellery" replica. There's a little piece broke off the top right corner, where it might have been attached to something.

You'd need to do a test to see if it's actual gold.
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with Sap and your assessment, it doesn't match any cob I've seen. As to if it's gold look to someone with an XRF machine to test it non destructively, other wise it is going to need an acid and scratch stone test.

The left photo is almost Celtic or Ottoman era, while the right photo is more akin to a Spanish based look and feel. Very close to a small copper 8 marevedis piece. (see my example), and about the same size. I believe there should be more to the design but it has been either cut down or struck onto a smaller flan.

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Given its small size (13x14 mm) and light weight (1.65 grams), this piece likely falls outside the specifications of genuine Spanish colonial gold coinage, which tended to be heavier and more uniformly struck. While the design mimics the classic cross-and-quadrant motif seen on escudos—featuring castles and lions representing Castile and León—the execution appears stylized and possibly cast rather than struck, which is typical of jewelry replicas or commemorative pieces.

Such items are often produced in solid gold or gold-plated alloys for use in pendants, charm bracelets, or pirate-themed collectibles. The irregular shape and absence of clear mint marks or legends further suggest it was made for aesthetic appeal rather than monetary circulation. If it does test as gold, it may still hold value as a vintage jewelry item, especially if it was crafted in 14k or 18k. For confirmation, a non-invasive gold test or XRF scan would help determine its composition and rule out plated or base metal imitations.
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Another non invasive method of testing would be a specific gravity test. A scale capable of at least 2 decimal points, a small cup, distilled water and a string for suspension is all that is needed. First record the dry weight of the object. Then attach a piece of monofilament fishing line to the coin. Place the small cup of distilled water on the scale and zero it out. Suspend the coin in the water without it touching the sides or bottom. Record the wet weight. Divide the wet weight into the dry weight. Genuine gold can range between 17.14(.899 fine) to 19.32 (.999 fine) depending on purity. Any reading significantly lower would indicate not gold or possibly a lower fineness of gold. Hope this helps.
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 Posted 12/16/2025  9:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add realeswatcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Meant to comment on this piece a while back, Eddi. Neat little specimen.

One thing first regarding "cob 1/2 escudo" - there IS no such beast. No cob 1/2 escudos were ever made, either in Spain or in the colonies - only the 1E and up.

Additionally, there were never any gold cob 1E issues made with a pillars & waves design (as this piece imitates). Potosi never made any gold... Lima's cob 1E issues featured a simple castle punch on the obverse - only the 2E and up used the pillars style (also note that the castle punch 1E featured a cross without lions and castles... first it used dots in the cross quadrants, then kind of an X symbol).

That said, the piece is CERTAINLY clearly imitating Potosi/Lima style pillars and waves cob coins (the silver reales issues).

However, I think rather than a contemporary counterfeit made to fool people as money, this piece was likely intended as a jewelry imitation. As noted, it was mounted... also curious it was made in exact medal alignment (that was not paid attention to on cob coinage... I would guess whoever made this did it intentionally for aesthetics or OCD or ?). The bigger thing, though, is that along the lines of what I said above, there wasn't really any kind of coin of this size that this comes close to emulating.

There's also the pillars side crudeness. While the lions/castles side is actually quite detailed and a reasonable (though not exact) rendering, the pillars side is basically artistic jibberish. There are a couple characters vaguely digit-looking in the spot where the date would be, but the denomination spot has that sunburst or whatever that is. The whole thing is just not trying really hard to be perfectly imitative, even if we consider it being done in a very crude South/Central American indigenous style.

I agree it does look like a gold alloy of some sort (lower purity), and definitely has age to it.
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Do not dismiss this coin. Avoid damaging it until it is properly identified.

Its crudeness makes me believe it is very possibly a coin struck by rebels during the independence wars of some central american spanish territory. Or it may have been struck in some of the current provinces of Argentina. Search for coings struck in those two regions for a match.

Many imitations of this traditional crude pillars type were struck by the rebels who lacked a proper mint. Those are genuine coins of great historical interest.

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