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Valued Member
Canada
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i wonder how far silver will go up? any ideas? got some to cash in...
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Valued Member
United States
147 Posts |
See topic " gold hot ...wear a glove or drop it "
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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silver has risen a bit, (quite a bit), but don't put a lot of faith in a strong surge. It will eventually become very much higher than it is now, but, it won't happen right away! Silver is so highly sought after, and because there is so much available, it doesn't move much. Give chiona, and India, among other countries a little more time, and over the long term, you will see silver in three digits. I may not be around to see it, but the younger generations will see, and take advantage. Dick
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Valued Member
United States
324 Posts |
"wonder how far silver will go up?" Good question. I expect silver to track gold, and eventually become the "poor man's gold". A big shift is underway in China right now, and they will ramp up buying gold. Note that the Chinese do not have any state or employer sponsored pension plans, which encourages them to save. And gold and silver is a natural choice. Even now, physical gold is hard to find, and very little in the form of 1 ounce coins is available on ebay. As gold rises, I expect folks to buy silver. Right now the ratio of gold to silver is about 60 to 1. If that ratio holds, silver will track gold. But, as gold becomes unafforadable, presumably the ratio will narrow. When gold reached $850 per ounce in 1980, world GDP was about $9 trillion US, and all the above ground gold reached a peak value of about $2.7 trillion US that year. Today, world GDP is about $55 trillion US (6 times more in just 30 years), and all the above ground gold is worth about $5 trillion US. With the continued devaluation of the US dollar and all the currency being added around the world, it may be possible for world GDP to double within a just few short years. In a "healthy environment" it would double in about 12 years. Should that happen and should the same ratio of total gold value to world GDP hold again, gold could reach $5k to $6k per ounce. And if silver is at 50x gold, then silver could reach $100+ per ounce. Of course, a US gallon of gas will probably be about $10 or so by then... prices European's are already familiar with... Numbers like this may look ridiculous NOW, but even $1,000 gold looked ridiculous a few years ago....
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Pillar of the Community
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Hi Gord, I would have to agree with MKB, There is only 1 place for the precious metals to go and that is up. way up... Freinds of mine laughed at me about a year & a half ago..I told them then to start buying into those types of funds and or physical metal.. Well they didnt and I'm the one laughing now... If a person can afford to buy in then now is the time before it gets out of reach... My thoughts only but I'm pretty sure many others out there feel the same....
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Valued Member
Canada
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I am a precious metals fan and off and on own significant amounts of silver, gold and palladium. I am holding off buying right now because so many people believe precious metals are going up. One of the few absolutes in investing is that most people are wrong most of the time. The time to buy is when people are spitting on something, which makes me wonder about buying $US right now. I am up in Canada and can go back and forth between currencies to an extent.
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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What about nickel?... anyone know what nickel is going for? I have 20 odd rolls of nickel, nickels, and was wondering what they are going for. 
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
10045 Posts |
Where's Gxseries, because he always has very good insight on the long-term supply/demand of precious metals against current market prices. From what I gather, prices for metals are driven by much larger factors than individual investors. Unless you're in that loop, it's not easy to predict the trends--despite all those sales pitches out there. So I don't even try to time the market...I sold my gold/silver a few weeks ago. 
Edited by DVCollector 09/18/2009 8:08 pm
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Valued Member
Canada
166 Posts |
DVCollector, you don't know how right you are. I was the highest ranking scientist at Engelhard Corporation (now part of BASF) before coming to Canada 5 years ago and I wonder if you are aware - unlike stocks it is NOT AT ALL illegal to trade precious metals on insider information, in fact it is not even illegal to try to manipulate the markets to try to make a profit.
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Valued Member
Canada
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People in developing economies like India, China and others are actively buying up gold. When there is not enough gold out there, silver becomes the next best option. Silver has doubled in less than a year. Silver was going for $8.50 / ounce last November, it is at $17.03 this Friday.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I'm (pleasantly) surprised we have so many PM guys here. As MKB points out, $5000 gold may mean brutal inflation and high prices on everything else, but unlike paper dollars it will store value as it is one of the best inflation hedges.
I don't believe silver is as abundant as some may believe. Anyone who was trying to buy when it was down not too long ago knows that spot price becomes irrelevant - if dealers are asking $5 over spot - and getting it - there has been a disconnect between "traded" silver, and physical silver bullion. For a lot of people who wanted to buy, the dealers simply couldn't deliver, unless it was something large like a COMEX 1000 oz. bar.
I now own more palladium than gold by weight. One doesn't have to look too far back in history to see what a minor supply disruption (or even a rumor thereof) can do to the price of a very thinly traded metal. It's been an absolute dog as long as I've owned it, and I refuse to sell it. There is just too much potential for Pd if it ever gets incorporated to some of the (theoretical) technologies out there.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
1051 Posts |
SHAFTA9a, they are worth 7.698 cents each (154% of face). The lowly copper penny still has the best cost / value ratio at a value of 1.946 cents (195% of face), but it just seems like too much work to sort copper one cent at a time (at least to me).
Over the last few years copper peaked at around $4/lb US and is now at almost $3 again. Nickel peaked at just under $25/lb, but has only come back up to about $7.80.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Silver, like oil, has had a big run up this year. While there is certainly more room to run in the long haul, I wouldn't be getting in at $17/oz looking for any short term profit.
My gut feeling, and that's ALL it is, is that silver will pull back some this winter. If and when it does and IF you have a chance to get in around $13/oz, I'd jump on it.
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