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1872-H Canada 50 Cent Real Or Fake ?

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Found this on a auction site, is this a reproduction or real



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 Posted 10/25/2009  6:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add acodym to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looks real to me but I'm not an expert!
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 Posted 10/25/2009  6:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dollar1948 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ill say real, the fonts on the obverse looks 'right'.
Cleaned mind you, but then again its so hard to find a coin from that era that never has been.
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 Posted 10/25/2009  9:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hhbkiddo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ok d23

I know the site....
scott also had a whole bunch of " Centsles" slabbed coins in the auction.
I sent him an email last week making him aware of their reputation. did NOT get an answer.

he is a good guy normally, not a coin expert, and he is a family man... normally very responsible..
and he calls it as it is.
but.... he puts up good pictures and sends you more if you ask...
I saved his butt once with a fake 48. he sent it to NGC, apparently came back as real.....beats me.
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 Posted 10/26/2009  12:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add D to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks guys, it is also my opinion this is authentic....

HHB.. small world, you hit the nail right on the head.....
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 Posted 10/26/2009  12:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add snaz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hiya. I'll chime in as well. :)
I also believe it to be real. The bridge on the nose is usually weak and disconnected, and the "font" is usually hard to replicate.
I am in the "authentic" boat.
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For lack of a better word, the coin above "feels" real to me--die struck and the right look of age.
As a comparison, here's an obviously cast/toned 1899 fake:

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10/26/2009 12:50 pm
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 Posted 10/26/2009  1:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hhbkiddo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
hello d23
what did it finally sell for. did not attend the auction.
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$160.00
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 Posted 10/26/2009  7:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinsrfun to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The 72 is real. The 99 is not cast, however is a fake made in China, circa 2008.
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The 99 is not cast--is it struck? Good to know, I was just going by the pebbly surfaces and loss of low-relief detail:

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DVCollector what excellent close up pictures, sure brings out the flaw in the queens mouth. What do you use to get these results
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Thanks! Those were shot with a Nikon D70S and their great macro lens (the 60mm).
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 Posted 10/26/2009  10:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add snaz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Based off the closeup pictures I would say the 1899 was cast. If it was struck those pebbles and pits wouldn't be there. The impact of the Dies onto the planchet is enough force to smooth out the surface of the coin.
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 Posted 10/27/2009  02:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fioti to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Bad clean job makes it appear suspicious.
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