Chinese-Vietnam Coin? | Reproduction China Yuan Shi-Kai $1

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Nic Pillar of the Community Philippines 1156 Posts	Posted 11/08/2009 10:45 pm Requesting ID please, 38mm diameter, silver, non-magnetic. Thank you Identified - moved to World Coin forum - Sap Report this Post to the Staff

svslav Pillar of the Community United States 2605 Posts	Posted 11/08/2009 11:42 pm Republic of China, 1 dollar (yuan), no date, issued 1916. Inauguration of Hung-hsien. Krause Y# 332. Looking at the decorations on his chest and comparing to the pic in Krause, looks pretty fake. Compare side by side: left, image from heritage coins, right, Nic's coin Edited by svslav 11/09/2009 3:29 pm Report this Post to the Staff
hc8604 Valued Member United States 303 Posts	Posted 11/09/2009 01:54 am I agree with fake. This coin is not the easiest to find, I believe.. I think the person is suppose to be Yuan Shi-kai Report this Post to the Staff
Nic Pillar of the Community Philippines 1156 Posts	Posted 11/09/2009 8:33 pm thanks svslav for the pic, your coin is just about beautiful for a 38mm crown size from China! Now I have to get one original coin like that to add to my crown size silvers. the fake costs US$5 for the learning process. The original is about? Would you happen to know silver percent content? thanks again Report this Post to the Staff
Sap Moderator Australia 16857 Posts	Posted 11/09/2009 8:55 pm Quote: I think the person is suppose to be Yuan Shi-kai Correct; Yuan Shi-Kai from the (brief) period he had himself proclaimed emperor. I have a copy of this coin, in similar crude style; It was one of several fake crown-sized coins found in a bulk lot of mixed world I bought at auction once. Silver content: zero. The silvery layer (whatever it was) has partly worn away, showing the brassy core. Mine is much lighter than a genuine silver dollar (only about 15 grams): Quote: the fake costs US$5 for the learning process. The original is about? Would you happen to know silver percent content? thanks again I don't think you could buy a genuine one in reasonable condition cheaply. this one on CoinArchives slabbed by NGC recently sold for $4500. One in the condition svslav posted would probably cost you $1000 or so; one in similar condition to "yours" would probably be about $100. Standard silver content for early republic-period Chinese dollars is .890 fine. Of course, yours probably has no more silver in it than mine does. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Report this Post to the Staff
svslav Pillar of the Community United States 2605 Posts	Posted 11/09/2009 11:25 pm Since everybody's sharing their Chinese fakes, here's a couple of artifacts of my "learning experience". The dollars look pretty clean, the problem is that Chinese legend does not match the one in English. This one says (it was made in) Szechuan: And this one says (it was made in) Sinkiang: I do have a third one which claims to be from Hupeh Province in both languages, but how can you trust a coin that came in a company of counterfeits. The price was right though. It wasn't a coin shop, the guy knew I was interested in world coins; his friend of a friend brought a couple of albums nobody claimed, and he let me have any coins I wanted (over 200) at six per $1.00. So I got three nice looking fakes for 50 cents. Report this Post to the Staff
Nic Pillar of the Community Philippines 1156 Posts	Posted 11/10/2009 07:43 am thanks svslav for the comparison pics, looks like there are many "manufacturers" for this coin type. While mine and sap appears to come from the same source, yours is more detailed, suggestive of multiple souces and at higher "grade". wow, they are making these like leather bags, belts and wallets. thanks sap, info always appreciated Report this Post to the Staff
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