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The VAM book states that they are a large premium. Has any one have a clue as the a % or value on an UNC
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are you referring to the ones with the sticker advertising the wagon wheel lodge on the reverse?
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Are referring to the term "cartwheel?"
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What are 'any' of you guys talking about?
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What are 'any' of you guys talking about?

this is what I was talking about http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...230400681449
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Thanks for clearing that up for me Bryan. I feel rather foolish, never hearing of such a thing before. $40 though? Are these things 'highly collectible' or are there other folks who are even more foolish than I?
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Twohawks made reference to this being mentioned in the VAM book (which I did read a while back), and I have no recollection of bar tokens being mentioned, nor can I imagine it. Cartwheels mentioned in the VAM book (I would think) would refer to the effect of a shiny 'new' condition Morgan under proper lighting conditions.
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As Superdave said.I'm sure he's refering to a cartwheel dollar. I have seen those mentioned in the Photograde but not sure how to discribe them.
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"Cartwheel" is just an adjective used to describe how the luster plays on an Uncirculated Morgan. As one moves the coin under a light, the highlighting rotates much like the spines found on the wooden wheel of a cart. Although the size and relatively-large fields of a Morgan make this more common, a similar effect can be seen on any nicely-lustrous coin with open fields.

I would expect to see this look on any nice Uncirculated, untoned Morgan, although it fades with die wear.
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Well said.
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Yeah, well said. An adjective (or maybe even an action verb). heh heh.
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I was referring to page 133 and 134 Partial collar strikes. It states in the last sentence on 133 that they are rare and bring a sizable premium. I found (2) 1884 O's and a 1885 O all are type 2

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Sorry for the delay my son had a basket ball game
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Ah. These are referred to in the hobby as "railroad rims." Quite in demand, from those who like to collect errors.
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I want your camera twohawks.
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after this topic I drug out the VAM book and did a quick look through looking for the word "Wagon Wheel" and didn't find it, I guess because even in the sentence mentioned above on the page listed above in my book it states "These partial collars are also known as "railroad rims" brcause of their resemblance to a flanged railroad car wheel
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