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 Posted 02/15/2010  04:39 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add coretj to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
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Just wondering if this would be a good idea?
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I'm sure alot of people will. I'll fill a couple of folders, but probably through circulation or bank rolls at face value.

For certain parks - I may buy some from the mint.
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 Posted 02/15/2010  05:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scott3270 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
no rolls for me I will collect these only because I get the proof and mint sets every year
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I'm doing the 100 coin bags instead. The roll sets with shipping wind up costing you about 47 cents a coin, the 100count bags only 35 cent a coin. Still outrageous, but with the banks not being able to order these the way they could order the State Quarters, I forsee a problem getting them without waiting for long time periods on some. Figure I'll make a few sets, save at least a rol ofeach and trade the rest.
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Question. Are these going to be alot tougher to buy rolls (1-4) of from the banks then? I ask because I was hoping to buy an extra (P) roll or two here on the East coast and trade with someone out West who could get an extra (D) roll.

If this is going to be a PITA - then I'll probably end up buying the 100 coin bags too - or finding someone to split that cost and split the bags, etc. I only plan to build about 5 sets, so I guess I'd hold some of the extras and sell the rest if I have to go it alone.
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I have had only one concern for buying the bulk coins, and bags as well. that fact is you will get the coins for that year and mint mark, but even in the "UNCIRCULATED" rolls from the banks, the coins are full of marks. there not going to be high MS coins.. those will only be had by other means...My Morgan dollars at over 100 years of age have less marks than my recent gold dollar Mint rolls from the bank..It seems to me the Mint is in the market to supply coin collectors "coins" as seen here 2 rolls of quarters for $32 bucks...when you can get the same coins from the Branch banks....I think its a rip off.......
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 Posted 02/15/2010  12:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AMFCook to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I wonder if they are going to add these in release sets for the Proof sets like with the state and territorial quarters.
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 Posted 02/15/2010  1:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add afcop13 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would think they'd be in the sets.

I'm going to wait and see how difficult the first run will be to get from my bank. My two tellers there will know I'm looking for them, so hopefully they'll set a couple aside. I can swing by almost anytime as I work less than a mile away.
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I'll buy a roll set from the mint to save as a roll set and update my albums from a mint set. It would be great to get the rolls at face value but I could only get P rolls in the shrink wrapped plastic from my bank.
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 Posted 02/15/2010  4:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eaglefoot to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
coretj.....

DO NOT FORGET !

These State Parks qtrs. will be a WHOLE DIFFERENT DEAL than the State qtrs. & Territory qtrs. were.
NO BANKS WILL BE GETTING THESE ROLLS FOR YOU OR ANYONE ELSE ! NOT EVEN FOR THEMSELVES They will not come in rolls like that. It's certainly possible to get some rolls/boxes where they "are" all the same......but like with the Cents, etc., that would be very infrequent and rare, and they certainly won't be able to "order" them like that. It'll just be a "mix".
That was a special deal with the State qtrs. ONLY, that will not be being repeated or continued for the new Parks issues. Only by "roll searching" would/will you come across these.
And if they're going to make all Mint Sets in Satin Finish......then the only way to get these "business strikes" will be from "Direct Ship" from the Mint, two roll Sets from the Mint.....or by buying rolls of qtrs. from your bank, in the hope that you can score one or two singles in the occasional roll.
So....you won't be able to "grab a roll" of the new Parks qtrs. from your bank every 3 months when a new one comes out......that's all I'm saying !

And, me personally, I "might" try to make a circulated "D" mint folder only of these Parks Quarters.....but that's about it for me. The wear on the "P" mints are really bad by the time I get them here in Kansas.....And I'm not going through that again !

The "challenge" is fun, of course, but it's a matter of where I want to put my money and energy really.
To answer your question in "my" humble opinion..... The two roll Sets from the Mint are way too overpriced to do that for 10 years worth of Parks Qtrs....so.......I just can't get the P mint qtrs......and "Direct Ship" from the Mint still doesn't get me the "P" mints......and I don't want to try to "trade" for 10 years with somebody to get them.......and I don't ebay........So......all of this just adds up to "not" doing a "P & D" or a "P,D,S" fancy album for this new series...IMHO......
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I will collect these from circulation (and I will get proofs from the annual proof sets) like I did the Statehood Quarters . I have no desire to collect these (or any modern series) by the roll.
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I never really got into the states quarters and I'm not getting into these either.
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The 'problem' with collecting (business strike) America The Beautiful
Quarters is that banks will not be able to order them from the Federal
Reserve as 'commemorative issues', like they could with the 1999-2009
Quarters.

The business strike versions of these will end up being like the 2009
Cents, banks will get them randomly (if at all). Some areas of the
country will get them, and some won't.

The mintages will probably be even lower than the mintages for the
2009 Territorial Quarters, so your odds of getting one in circulation
will probably be only slightly better than finding a pre-1965 Silver
Quarter in your change.

The Denver Mint may not even start making 2010 Quarters until April!
(if the rumors I hear around here are correct...)
As shown here, Zero (none, zip, nada) business strike Quarters
(or Dimes & Nickels) were made in January 2010
(at either the Denver or the Philadelphia Mints!).

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 Posted 02/16/2010  12:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coretj to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
DNA - so you're saying that it might be a good Idea
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 Posted 02/16/2010  5:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I believe that there is a good chance that these will appreciate more than the Statehood Quarters, at least for the business strike coins (since I believe that it is likely that the proof and satin finish strikes will have similar mintage numbers).
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Quote:
coretj:"so you're saying that it might be a good idea"

It might not be the worst idea, since it seems like these are going to
be almost impossible to acquire at face value, either from pocket change
or from bank rolls.

The few bank rolls of these that do dribble out of the Fed will
probably be put on ebay, by those who are lucky enough to get them!
This is what happened with the 2009 Cents, but new Cents are (by
necessity) distributed more than Quarters. Cents have a much higher
attrition rate than Quarters (zinc corrosion, left on ground and not retrieved,
bent, etc.)

This meant that a certain percentage of 2009
Cents simply had to be released...

Here in Denver, the Federal Reserve Branch is still distributing
2008-D Nickels and Dimes (as of Feb. 2010). The 2009-D business
strike Dimes and Nickels have not even left the Fed yet! Given this
situation, it is possible that there might not even be any 2010-D
business strike Nickels or Dimes. This is not without historical
precedent- Ex: no 1931 or 1933 Quarters, no 1932-33 Nickels or Dimes,
no 1930-32 Half-Dollars. There would have been no 1932 Quarters,
but for the desire to issue a Washington quarter that year as a
circulating commemorative, in honor of the 200th anniversary of his
birth...

So, it is a very good question as to whether any 2010
business strike Quarters will even be "needed" to be distributed by
the Federal Reserve for circulation use (especially since banks can't
special-order them from the Fed as 'commemoratives').

There was already a major decline nationally in the number of banks
that ordered the 2009 Territorial Quarters, as compared to the
1999-2008 Statehood Quarters.

The 2010 business strike Quarters may end up being minted in 'token'
quantities, mostly for the Mint's bags and rolls program, with any
leftovers being sent to the Fed, who would distribute those randomly
and in no particular time frame. And...what if the entire
mintage of a particular design was 'sold out' strictly to the bags
and rolls allocations, and none left over going to the Fed?
We would have a "NIFC" (issued only to collectors) design, by default!

This would mean that most 2010 business strike Quarters will be in
collector's hands from the 'get-go' (so most all of them would stay
in Uncirculated condition), but the near-impossibility of acquiring
them in circulation should help their value appreciation.

If the Mint bags/rolls are the only practical way for most collectors
to obtain these coins, the 2010 Quarters will basically be "NIFC"
(not intended for circulation) coins, in practical terms (even if a
few 'leftovers' happen to be collecting dust in the Fed's vaults!)

Certainly, premium-priced Mint Rolls seemed ridiculous when you could
buy boxes of BU Quarters at face value from your local bank, but it's
looking like things have 'changed' ....

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02/16/2010 11:37 pm
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