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Valued Member
 Canada
241 Posts |
I'm in Montreal if you want to come see it!
there's little damage on rim but it seems to not have been pushed enough hard to make a hole in it.. you can clearly see the vertical lines of the cone holding the flame in the second V.
Do you guys think I should get it certified ? it is very lustrous and will the certification service will recognize the mint error?
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Valued Member
Canada
241 Posts |
the obverse is in perfect condition ! No marks of any kind MS-64 65 I would say.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
693 Posts |
CCCS will cert. a genuine mint error. :-)
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Valued Member
Canada
241 Posts |
but do you think it worth certified?
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
693 Posts |
The first and hardest rule to explain to people about an error authentication is.........for a coin to be considered as an actual mint error, you have to be able to explain how the coin got to the condition it did..while still in the mint. :-)
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2669 Posts |
Looks like another coin came into contact at a slight angle.. pushing the bottom of the V down more than the top (so the V looks 'smaller' - it's mainly the bottom half). The V is incuse and is over top of the other design elements. If there is another explanation for something like that then I'm all ears!  |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
693 Posts |
if contact on an angle, the rim would be flattened.....
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Valued Member
Canada
241 Posts |
Xshift do you think someone could have done this by hands? if it was done by human hand I think the coin would have shown some tools marks or finger print or scratches ...
so what you guys think MINT error or not ?
I'm confuse at first I thought it was very special but coinsrfun made me sceptical.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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if the flame is backwards on the indent, then it is hit with a mallet, to make a fake error coin
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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if contact on an angle, the rim would be flattened..... Indeed.. I was wondering about that. I could not line an overlay up correctly for diagnosis because of the angle the coin is at in the pictures. Regardless, it was struck with something that made an opposite impression of what it is supposed to. So either it was struck by another coin or by a flipped capped die that had thinned so much it allowed most of the original design through AND only retained the bottom portion of the middle design (the V) AND that it had rotated during its ordeal. Quote:
Xshift do you think someone could have done this by hands? if it was done by human hand I think the coin would have shown some tools marks or finger print or scratches ... The only thing keeping me from saying it's 100% a garage job is that I don't see anything besides normal dings on the rim (well, that and I'm not completely sure about Canada mint methods, so yes, I could be totally wrong). Yes, people do this kind of thing all the time - whether they use a vise and it shows the marks, or they use gentler methods where it does not show any. This kind of thing is seen a lot on Lincoln cents. Unfortunately  Can you get a complete straight-on shot of this side? With that, you could do an overlay and see if the impression is completely reversed on that odd part. |
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Valued Member
Canada
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Couldn't get a good picture of the rim it was all blurry , I think I will give it a try at CCCS for error certification. I can't figure why there isn't any marks or cut less than the double V.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
693 Posts |
There is something elase going on the Rev. Just can not make it out with the pics provided. Good Luck in authentication. Please let us know the results.
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Valued Member
Canada
241 Posts |
sure ill post pictures of the result :)
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2224 Posts |
Would love to see Mike Diamond's opinion of this!
My guess is a struck fragment with the V the most prominent feature on the fragment came between the die and the coin, creating an indented V. Really nice coin!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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 Invite him to the party! |
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