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Developing My Newest Coin Product! Verdi-Care

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 Posted 04/09/2010  7:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Made some adjustments today to the formula. The changes should slightly reduce drying time and improve on verdigris removal. I'll post some results in awhile. I hope this will be the final formulation!
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 Posted 04/09/2010  7:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Test of new formula 100409 on verdigris infected Lincoln. Using microfiber towel soaked in product method. Verdigris ranged from light to heavy. Coin also had a high level of surface debris.

Note: Surface dirt was fairly heavy and evenly spread. The coin is lighter after application due to removal of the grime layer.

Heavy verdigris was not removed at all. I used a toothpick soaked in product to prod the remaining heavy verdigris and I broke it. LOL The only way that heavy verdigris can be chemically removed is with strong acid. This would leave tell-tail pits as a lot of copper has been pulled from the surface with heavy verdigris.

Collectors and conservationists take note! Yes, the light verdigris has been removed, but once again it's obvious that the coin has been conserved. Often collectors want the verdigris removed, but what's under it is not always pleasing.

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Tested on the reverse of an Ike. The coin was pretty dull to start.



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I selected this test coin for the gummy, black residue on the reverse. There was also some lighter residue around the upper right and center of the coin.

This is definately a case where I don't like what was under that heavy black clump. The surface was badly scratched in that area. Perhaps that's why the gummy residue stayed there.


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This next result is the most amazing I've seen yet. The coin looked almost hopeless before conservation! I was very surprized that the light verdigris just vanish in about 30 seconds using the rub method with a microfiber towel. This doesn't even look like the same coin anymore! This one made me .



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I picked out this coin because it looks to have had heavy verdigris at one time. It looks to me like the heavy verdigris was accidentally cleaned at some point leaving verdigris inside some deep pits. This was a tough case and I didn't expect much.

Note: Very common to a coin that has had verdigris removed, notice subdued red tint characteristic of cuprous oxide (Cu2O). This is due to oxidation of copper. Sometimes this can be mellowed by a long-term (months) exposure to air. Collectors should learn to recognize this as a sign of previous corrosion.

The remaining heavy verdigris can only be removed with strong acid at this point. However, it would completely destroy the patina in the process!


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1973D Lincoln Cent with heavy verdigris and a reddish patina. Using microfiber towel soak in VERDI-CARE™, circular rub about 30 seconds.

Note: Heavy verdigris not removed, coin still a bit wet as pic taken immediately after treatment.


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1978D Lincoln with mostly light verdigris, some moderate. Towel method, 30 seconds:


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1968D using towel method:


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Just a horrible coin, just wanted to see what would happen. Only the light verdigris removed, there's some thick, heavy verdigris on this coin, but the spots are small.


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Tested on the reverse of an Ike. The coin was pretty dull to start.
This was the test that I was waiting for.
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Do you see a difference? What do you think? Do you have any Ikes that you think the product could be useful on? Do you trust the chemical technology?

I need people to talk to me here. If you hate the product, the idea, or if you like it....don't be afraid to speak up.
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IHC stability test. Initial compared to 14 days after treatment:


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Do you see a difference? What do you think?
I could not see the difference but I did notice a difference. It could be psychological though. (I know you conserved it, therefore I notice it). It could be my monitor, but it does seem to have a glint to it now.

To be honest, it was not as impressive as the other tests. Like that IHC above, that is an incredible transformation!


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Do you have any Ikes that you think the product could be useful on?
I do have some circulated pieces with some gunk on them. I might be interesting to see how they change.


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Do you trust the chemical technology?
I definitely trust you, and I am very impressed with most of the examples shown, especially the copper (which I think benefits most from the conservation).
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I could not see the difference but I did notice a difference. It could be psychological though. (I know you conserved it, therefore I notice it). It could be my monitor, but it does seem to have a glint to it now.

To be honest, it was not as impressive as the other tests. Like that IHC above, that is an incredible transformation!


Not psychological, the luster was definately improved, but just slightly. Honestly, I wasn't all that impressed myself. LOL Nickel clad coins are very resistant to most everything. Every coin I found in change looked good, just beat up, but no corrosion or surface debris to experiment on ...they are nothing like copper that's for sure.

The good thing is that even nice clean coins will benefit from VERDI-CARE™. The ReAcT2™ will form a protective surface barrier to provide life-long protection from toning and corrosion.


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I do have some circulated pieces with some gunk on them. I might be interesting to see how they change.


ME TOO!


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I definitely trust you, and I am very impressed with most of the examples shown, especially the copper (which I think benefits most from the conservation).


Thanks! Copper definately benefits the most....but nickels are a close second.
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