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I have had the opportunity to examine several of the 2010 Lynx specimen sets and was fortunate enough to find 3 of the mule coins within this sample. As we all are aware; for several years, the Royal Canadian Mint has been producing specimen sets. Recently, these sets have been produced using specially produced striated planchets struck by heavily polished and sand blasted reverse cameo dies creating the "specimen finish" we all know so well. Some of the 2010 dimes in the specimen sets contain dimes that have the typical reverse cameo finish on the reverse side of the coin and, because the mint does not strike circulation strikes in Ottawa, coins that come another form or die. Most likely a die made for Uncirculated sets of some sort without the reverse cameo finish was used. Baby sets, P/L sets; any one of a number of sets are possibilities. However, what they didn't screw into the press was a specially prepared die using the reverse cameo finish for the production of specimen coins. This could only have been done in error and has created the newest Canadian "mule" coin. We now should focus on how many of these coins were made. The numbers on my three mule coins were in the low mid-8400 range of the 15000 sets produced. What are your numbers? If we can establish the range of numbers we should be able estimate the mintage. Comments? |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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They are not MULES.....They are Reverse Proof coins!@!~!~!! Dear Lord Stop the INSANITY!! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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As long as I know:
1. the numbering of the certificate of sets has nothing to do with the order the coin was struck - all coins are struck and then sent to packaging
2. if (and I repeat - IF) the coin is a mule, they were struck during the initial run, until the operator noticed the error. Operators, in general check every few minutes - the error would be noticed not later than 500-750 coins were struck.
I have 3 sets, no "mules".
If anyone with such coins is going to attend TOREX, please bring it along - I would like to examine it and discuss with a few error experts that will be there. I will post any news I learn there
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Valued Member
Canada
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First of all, I am impressed by the knowledge displayed by these two teens not only in the production and study of coins, but there master of the English language. I say this with all sincerity. I wish my children had taken such an interest in either subject. Hats off to you boys.
As for the coins, in my opinion, not mules.
Edited by rikcando
06/21/2010 8:45 pm
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Valued Member
Canada
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btw, Welcome to the forum boys.
Edited by rikcando
06/21/2010 8:58 pm
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New Member
Canada
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I cannot understand how anyone who has actually held one of these coins in their hand could confuse the die on the 2010 mule 10c piece with a specimen reverse cameo die. The mint used a non-sandblasted non-polished die, likely from a P/L set or one of the many other numismatic BU sets they make each year in error to produce this coin. The coin IS a mule by the classic defintion. A coin made using two dies that should not have been used together.
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New Member
Canada
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New Member
Canada
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IS CAMPBELL RIVER GUY THE ONLY ONE WITH ANY CENTS (FUN WITH PUNS) BESIDES MYSELF? there is a guy on ebay selling one of these for $1250. I put up his pictures. hello! this is a mule. ***Edited by Staff - Please Review the rules that you agreed to when you registered. *** I have 4 2 of these sets myself and am about to order more from the mint to see if I can find one. I sent the ebay seller a message saying that I think $1250 at this point is a little high. he won't budge. I kind of don't blame him! I asked if I could use his pictures and he said I could because he says he knows it's a mule. he's identified it as a pl dime die like campbellriver says. ***Edited by Staff - Please Review the rules that you agreed to when you registered. *** |
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New Member
Canada
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Hello Kevindoescoins: Have you noticed something really interesting? Most of the people with these coins are from Winnipeg. I wonder if most of these sets these were sent to the Mint here for sale. I bought mine at the mint here in Winnipeg. $1250 sounds to high. Somehow my profile says I am 12 I must have made a mistake when I joined. Make that 4 times that age. In my time I have learned to be patient. Let's try and determine how many were made. What are your numbers?
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New Member
Canada
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i purchased the my 2 sets at the mint as well. you state that your serial numbers on the mules is in the 8400's? my numbers are 8364 and 8366.arg! what frustrates me is if I would have went to the mint a little later I could have had one! we must have picked ours up within a matter of days apart! I messaged the guy selling his on ebay again and asked what his serial number is. no response as of yet. however, he is a winnipeg seller. this is something that must have been clustered in winnipeg and I just missed it! I wonder where asyn got his from and what his numbers are? that seller isn't from winnipeg. maybe he purchased his from the mint around the same time as you bought yours. I will message him as well to see if his numbers are in the 8400's like yours. if this is the case there is no doubt that there is a cluster in winnipeg in those sets. I have placed an order for ten more and my fingers and thumbs are crossed! |
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Canada
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Hello Kevindoescoins: Thanks for posting those pictures of the reverse cameo 10 cent coin and the mule. With these now available there can no longer be any doubt that these coins are from different dies. The mint opens at 9:30. I'll try and beat you to the door! Lets get those numbers published fellow forum members or do any of you actually have these coins? Thats it for me tonight.
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New Member
Canada
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ebay SELLER DAVE19721972 RESPONDED TO MY QUESTION REGARDING SERIAL NUMBERS! YOU ARE RIGHT CAMPBELLRIVER! I CUT AND PASTED HIS RESPONSE BELOW. hello thanks for the question. my COA is numbered 8400. if you decide to purchase this coin I will send the COA with it. I have purchased and looked at many 2010 Lynx sets and have not discovered another mule or anomaly. i am sorry I can not provide further information as to what numbers the mules appear in, but I do appreciate your input. I will be updating my information in my listing thanks to the information provided - I thought the one I have listed was the first and maybe only one found. thank you for posting my photos. I have viewed the forum you sent me the link to and am surprised to see that many of the responses are opposed to accepting this dime as a mule. thanks again dave AT LEAST THERE ARE AFEW PEOPLE ON THE SAME PAGE HERE! GET BACK TO ME! KEV
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AT LEAST THERE ARE AFEW PEOPLE ON THE SAME PAGE HERE! This thread has gone from informative to a bickering match over who's right and who's not. Stick to the facts people. If you do not know something...just say so or say nothing at all.
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New Member
Canada
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HI PEOPLE AND CAMPBELL RIVER!
i went to the mint today in Winnipeg. I bought 10 more lynx sets, no mules, the numbers are all in the 12300's. I await your reply Campbellriver. you mentioned in a previous post you would be doing the same. I saw a guy out there but he wasn't buying the lynx sets, I was almost going to murmur 'campbellriver' to see if it was you, but than the guy bought some mint rolls and left. this is frustrating to say the least! I still have 10 coming that I ordered yesterday. I hope they are in the 8400's! I WISH I COULD GET ONE OF THESE GUYS FOR A REASONABLE PRICE! oh well , like you said time will tell.
still having fun!
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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In 2001 I was discussing with other collectors 2 interesting findings: a good number of 25c that had the reverse brilliant and the obverse matte and 2 types of 5c, one type brilliant and another matte. These 2 findings went out unrecognized by most collectors.
This is to say that "finish" is hardly seen as something of importance by many (including ICCS)
To make matters worse, a good number of numismatists do not recognize modern PLs as being different from the business strike.
That, and everything else discussed in this thread, said, I would approach the designation "mule" and the astronomical price tag of the coin with great care
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