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I just finished reading all these post. Very interesting.
This may sound stupid. Doesn't the silver testing kit do some damage to the coin?
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macmercury, you only need to rub the edge of the coin on a fine whetstone...damage would not be visible
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Maybe you could find an MS69 or MS70 common coin. Making a common coin , well, uncommon.
Grade rarity, like when MS65 Morgans were $400. Lasted until they found bags of some dates in 65. |
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She suggested it may be illegal to own and may be confiscated if sent in to a grading company.
She's not as knowledgeable as you think. Slobbing services get illegal-to-own fakes all the time, and just return them. They have their own "black cabinets", as do many dealers. If you send it to the treasury for an opinion, they may keep it if they find it to be fake. |
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Slobbing services Couldn't have said it better myself.  |
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Thanks Maineman, learn something new once in a while. I should bring it to the flea market and test away.  |
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you only need to rub the edge of the coin on a fine whetstone...damage would not be visible Except that test would be fooled by a silver plating unless you either cut into the coin or did some serious filing on the edge to get through any plating before you ran the test. So yes to make sure you got definitely valid results you would have to damage the coin. Quote:
80 dollars or more? What if its just a normal 1977 D? thats alot of money to pay for grading a coin that probably only worth 2 dollars. That is why you should exhaust all possible tests yourself before sending something like this off to a grading service. That's why I always find it somewhat annoying whenever someone finds what looks to be a off-metal error there will be people immediately advising sending it off to be certified when simply tests that can be done at home will unmask better than 99% of the fake off-metals. Many will say send it off even before they know what it weighs. In the case of this coin a specific gravity test would have been a very sensible thing to have done before sending it off. Edited by Conder101
02/22/2011 5:34 pm
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Condor101, you may have a point if it was plating but I think a little ingenuity with a needle file or dremel tool may yield satifactory results.I think you are right about testing a little more before sending off to a TPG, but that is a moot point just as my idea is. |
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A dremel tool, seriously? I would have had a hard time rubbing the edge against a whetstone but a dremel tool is just insane.
As far as the money out to PCGS, it is well worth it to me. First of all, I have no idea how to do a specific gravity test. I did read about them online but seems to me it would be a couple hours of hassle and I would still not be convinced. Secondly, my time is more valuable to me than that, I have a 3 year old to keep up with, a house to remodel, a business to run, and a wife to keep happy. A mere $80 is money well spent in my opinion. Third, if I went through all the hassle of the specific gravity test and it came out to be silver I would still have to spend the $80 to have it authenticated.
I did all the simple testing I was willing to do, now I wait with the rest of you.
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with you hybes . to the end and good luck !
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I was thinking about rubbing the edge would also harm the surface of the edge, and using a any other hard objects to test is definitely a No. Would really like to know what are the methods of the 3 TPG uses to test metal contents. |
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I would have had a hard time rubbing the edge against a whetstone but a dremel tool is just insane When was the last time you saw a half dollar graded by the edge ? Take a look at the edge of a slabbed half dollar once. And I realize you may not have machining experience, but we are talking a couple thousandths of an inch. A hair on your head is about three thousandths for example. |
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I would love to see you take a couple thousandths of an inch off with a dremel. Even if you could that would still amount to taking off part of the reeding.
I have seen plenty of coins graded less because of an edge ding.
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hybes,yes a good rim is a detraction,the edge is a different story.But I can easily take off a couple of thousandths and it wouldn't be detected unless someone were specifically looking with a loupe and that normally doesn't happen.If your coin was pulled from circulation, it probably has a few dings already.One thing to note here...nobody is attacking you...but when we discuss the what if's, it is simply to educate ourselves for the next time an opportunity like this comes up.
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02/23/2011 08:13 am
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