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...but I sure have fun doing it! And I know cool when I see it!

Picked up 3 of these today along with 3 pennies dated the same.
This one was in the best condition of the 3, so it gets posted.

These are huge! They are like hockey pucks!


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 Posted 01/14/2011  03:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add molydeii to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
scooby it is an awesome cartwheel penny. Hard to find in that grade. Much better than my example of said coin :)
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Molydeii, this is a cartwheel twopence.

It's tricky to tell them apart just from pics with no scale, but the secret to doing so is the trident. On the twopence, the shaft and central tip points directly to the second N in BRITANNIA. On the penny, they miss.

Tuppences generally are found in better condition than pennies, for the obvious reason: the things were simply far too big to be a convenient unit of money. They were, however, convenient for storekeepers, who used them as two-ounce weights.
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Sap, thanks for correcting me. See, I learned something new today, again. This is why I love the forum.
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 Posted 01/14/2011  07:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KenKat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Now that is a neat coin!

So it is really the size of a hockey puck? And these were circulating coins? Guess you learn something new everyday!
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Georgius the third looks mean is that the same king the US rebelled against?
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That's the one fenton - no wonder he looks so upset
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KenKat, these things are huge. I can easily hide an Ike dollar in between 2 of them and I'll bet it's 4 times the thickness. I'm going to start carrying one around with me for self defense!

fenton, I believe it is.

If I understand correctly, these were minted from 1797-1838?, but always had 1797 as the date on them. But, the vast majority were minted in the first couple years and still didn't total more than around 50,000 for the whole span.
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Here's a side by side comparison of the trident orientation that Sap was referring to:



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That is an awesome coin! Only 50,000 made for their entire span? You did great Scooby Due! I'm guessing it wouldn't fit in a 2x2?!
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That is cool!
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I red somewhere at 4th July 1776, George III wrote to his diary "nothing special happened today". I don't remember which book I red it, so I can not give reference. Instant communication across Atlantic didn't start until 1901 - long time after Ole' George is dead.
Why he looks so sad? maybe it's because the loss of his eldest daughter devastated him through the end of his life. Maybe because he had a "mysterious madness". Today's scientists think he has a blood disease that causes severe depression and some contemporary witnesses claim George III showed symptoms similar to Alzheimer's. Who knows why he is sad! - I want to quote Joker in Batman here, "why so sad, son?"
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Jaymon74 : there are some special 2x2's that this coin fits.
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That is an awesome coin! Only 50,000 made for their entire span?


Jaymon, that's what I remember reading somewhere. Actually, I think I read it here, but couldn't find the old thread.

Anyway, I'm waiting for any one of our walking dictionaries to chime in and set us straight. But, I believe that to be correct (at least for now - LOL!).
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That twopence cartwheel is very nice! The weight and soft copper usually means they're all dinged up.
These are so impressive in-hand--it boggles the mind how one would use them in trade.
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You did just great!

I have a different mintage figure. There were some complications for this type. First coins for circulation were struck in 1797. By 1800 they already started melting them as the price of copper increased (by 1805 it was up 30%). But they did continue striking coins from the same dies (of which there were many varieties) for decades, including off-metal and bronzed ones ("late Soho").
The Coincraft gives the mintage figure of 722,160, The Krause supplies a similar figure without mention of any melting. To my understanding 722k must me the number of "available" specimens. But I could be wrong ...
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