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Bedrock of the Community
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You can put a slabbed coin in a sunlit window all summer and speed up the process.Aren't they all really artificially toned in one way or another ? There is nothing unnatural about a coin sitting in the sun. If you were to put that same coin on a hotplate or in an oven, then it would be AT because neither of those scenarios are likely to happen naturally. High heat will rapidly accelerate the kinetics of the toning reaction and will produce a different look than than a slow deliberate natural reaction. |
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I'd like to see one with some nice rainbow stripes or some cool polka dots.  |
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I have to agree with biokemist6. Some things are natural and some things aren't although chemical processes take place in both cases. I don't know where you draw a line or how you decide. Intuition maybe. Beauty's in the eye of the beholder.
Everyone here has made a good point in my opinion, on both sides of the argument. It's making me confused. Maybe the question should be; is it quality toning?
Though I'll stick with NT
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I am doing a little project to see if " toned coins " do bring a prem . I have two 1958 100 yen coins they are .600 silver I am going to build a metal clamp ring ( prob from a pipe clamp coin in the middle hung with a metal wire in a oven)to hold the coin and dangle it in the oven so the coin will be toned evenly and hopefully have a " ring of fire " effect to it .The metal on metal (clamp and coin) heat it will start to tone the coins outter edges first . the problem whith alot of AT coins are they are uneven , people lay them on a hot plate or stove and one side gets toned the other dont. or the contact marks leave a nasty burt look on the coins surface. I am hoping for a purpleish ring with blue and yellow tones in the center. I will tone one coin and not tone the other.... I will list them on ebay at the same time for 10 days with no reserve with detailed pics and see what happens. I am using forgien coins becuase people might not know much about them or how to spot toning differances from natural and AT being the are .600 silver and most people dont have exp with .600 silver coins |
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Post the links to the auctions when you list them, I would like to see the results
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very interesting,
I can't wait to see how this turns out!
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Go coppertop. It may be that the coin tones more on the inside rather than the perimeters because the band may work as a heat sink and keep the edges cooler. either way it's interesting.can't wait to see the results.
a true artiste.
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jimineez - Thanks for taking the time to answer my question.
Good luck with your project, coppertop.
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There is nothing unnatural about a coin sitting in the sun I did say slabbed, which is not natural,and then there is the plastic to consider. But I think Doucet is right...it is confusing if you really think about it...I'll go with toning I like because I really believe there is no way to know what has happened to a 50 or 100 year old coin. |
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coppertop5150, ingenious! I can't wait to see the results.
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At one of the many coin shows I go to there is dealer that has many toned coins in slabs. AND they sell really fantastic. I got to know him fairly well and he told me almost all of those were done by him purposely and sent out for grading and slabbing and very few ever were noted as AT. Some know how to fool even the so called experts. He was the same dealer that showed me a slab he opened, replaced the original coin, resealed it and just couldn't see how he did that.
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coppertop- My opinion is that you need to make sure there are no fingerprints, oils, residues, etc on the coin before you try to tone. I think there should be a free reaction between raw silver and the air. I have a nice toned Morgan that has full color throughout, except a clear fingerprint right on about 10% of the obverse. Where the fingerprint is, there is no toning. If the coin is not BU, maybe you should ligtly dip it, or at least clean with a gentle soap, without scrubbing or scratching it. Hey just carl- do you remember what TPG is was that he fooled? There is certainly a difference from one to the other, some are totally bunk as you probably know. Edited by jimineez
02/01/2011 9:33 pm
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Coppertop,there are a few ebay sellers already doing that so you'll have some competition. just carl, the slabbed coin in the window trick was one I learned from a dealer....he didn't even need to fool the TPG.But you did make my point...nobody really knows. |
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Quote:Hey just carl- do you remember what TPG is was that he fooled? There is certainly a difference from one to the other, some are totally bunk as you probably know. Don't remember but I'm sure it wasn't one of the popular ones. I remember I did hear of that TPGS but since I never save slabs, I seldom really worry about who they are. |
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hey guys started out slow 250 for 1 hr little yellow tint color, very natural looking as if it were just aging
turned it up to 350 for 1/2 hour a lil more tanish yellow tint, turned it up to 450 Started getting some PEARL BLUE COLOR on the background,
I'll leave it in awhile see what happen .
This process is slow , at home if someone wanted to try it they could prob skip the first hour and go straight for 350-450 .
Silver takes awhile but beware copper cents tone fast if you throw a copper cent in the oven in 30 minutes at 450 yourll have a purple coin
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Posted 02/01/2011 4:43 pm
