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1798 pattern "cartwheel" farthing
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Dundee Halfpenny 1797

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1795 halfpenny. Anyone recognize the US version of the tune on the obverse?
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Wow, I never saw musical notes on a coin before. That's cool.

A silver 1795:

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She got a bit of a burn from that Venetian sun.
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1799

Sweden, another ΒΌ Skilling, 1799

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1797

Great Britain, Cartwheel Penny (now in a friend's collection)
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1795 Spanish Colonial 8 Reales Portrait dollar

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And, because I want to show off my Texas piece, 1834 5 Dollars. Please feel free to post other 1835 pieces!



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Thaat's a nice Texas $5 note but are you sure it is a 1834?

The Republic of Texas didn't exist in 1834, I am inclined you think you might have a 1839 note?


Looks like 1840 in the top half of the 5.
serial number, not date
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a couple of pages back, mysilveryears said:
Ahh, I doubt it will get half that far back. It is only supposed to show dated coins. Dating by reign or regime or number of centurians in your parade does not count.

It all depends. If this thread were limited to AD dates, then it certainly will die out somewhere in the early 1500s, perhaps late 1400s. Putting AD dates on coins is a relatively modern concept; coins prior to 1500 with AD dates are few and far between, and coins prior to 1200 with AD dates simply do not exist, anywhere.

However if, as I understand it, we can use coins depicting dates in other calendars, so long as there is reasonable equivalence between that date indicated on the coin and an AD year, then I don't see a problem with including them. And doing so could, in theory, take us way back to a couple of centuries BC, via the Islamic, Sassanian, Parthian, Roman regnal and Seleukid calendars.

Meanwhile, on with the show.

1794

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Great Britain "spade" guinea. The slight staining at the top of the reverse is a removed mount mark.
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What's the serial number on your note?

184?, which I originally mistook for a date (inside the top of the 5).

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1795 halfpenny. Anyone recognize the US version of the tune on the obverse?


yarm, that would be:

God bless our native land,
Firm may she ever stand,
Through storm and night.
When the wild tempest rave
Ruler of wind and wave
Do thou our country save
By thy great might.

For her our prayers shall rise
To God above the skies,
On him we wait.
Thou who art ever nigh
Guarding with watchful eye,
To thee aloud we cry
"God save the state."

The difference between the British and US songs, using the same melody, show why the idea of America was so striking. In the rest of the world, all your rights came from the king and could be taken away. In the good ol' USA, all our rights are endowed by our Creator and are unalienable. No king or form of government can grant them or take them away because they are naturally ours.

God save the state (a self-governed people)vs. God save the king.
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The melody has attracted quite a few lyricists! I was thinking of Samuel F. Smith's 1832 "AMERICA-My country 'tis of Thee."

My country, 'tis of Thee,
Sweet Land of Liberty
Of thee I sing;
Land where my fathers died,
Land of the pilgrims' pride,
From every mountain side
Let Freedom ring.
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Oh, yeah, there is that song as well. Another good one.
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