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This Is Crazy, If It Sold It Would Break The Auction Record

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 Posted 05/01/2011  10:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
no a mule is an Obverse paired with a different denomination Reverse, this is just a cent struck over a dime, also called a 11¢ coin
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 Posted 05/01/2011  10:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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He opened an attache' case with _________________________________________________________ and a white looking penny..


I'm reading this in the description but can't figure why the seller has a blank line. Do we get to fill in the blank here?

If so I think it should say ... "He opened an attache' case with the secret combination and took out his 007 semi automatic Walther PPK and a white looking penny."
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 Posted 05/01/2011  10:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ikandiggit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"He opened an attache' case with a big black crowbar and a white looking penny."
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 Posted 05/01/2011  10:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
here is a 11¢ coin that sold on heritage http://coins.ha.com/common/view_ite...&Lot_No=4872
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 Posted 05/01/2011  11:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
sorry, but I'm almost 100% sure you're wrong about mule die. Both sides have both images.
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I always thought of a mule along with what Bryan stated (Diff. Denoms.)But what about same denomination coins ?
Am confused about what you would call lets say
numerous modern quarters which are really mules ?. There is the scarce 1964 quarter with the "clad" reverse and '65 to '72 issues with the type "b" reverse. There are rare '74 quarters with the reverse of 1973 and the very scarce one with the reverse of '72. All of the '77 to '84 quarters (except 82-P) appear with type "d" reverses though some are scarce. There are also some 65 to 71 coins with "proof" reverses. All of these except the '64 issue will prove to be rare or very rare in unc. Some more stuff to look for :) Swell


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 Posted 05/02/2011  12:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Indian1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The video made me dizzy. I did however love the narration :)
I figured out the blanks in the attache case line though.

"He opened an attache case with four calling birds, three french hens, two turtle doves and a white looking penhen henny"
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sorry, but I'm almost 100% sure you're wrong about mule die. Both sides have both images.

a mule is two denominations paired together not a dual struck dual denomination. If it were the Obverse of a Lincoln Cent and the Reverse of a Dime, that would be a mule, this is just a double denomination coin because it has the Obverse and reverse of both coins struck over one another. I don't claim to know much about errors but I definitely know what a mule coin is because it was one of the things I looked up when I first started collecting because a friend had a mule coin from another country. This is a Mule
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It is possible to have even had made dies by explosive impact copying, and use those on a genuine dime planchet. Genuine dime planchets are not entirely unobtainable. I have seen them. I have other genuine small size U.S. blank planchets in my error collection, (no dimes).

At a 'but it now' price if $12 million, that scenario is not too hard to imagine. At that price, he would need to make one only, to help avoid suspicion.
If ANYONE is to pay thousands for such a coin, it would be absolutely necessary to have it certified by the U.S. Mint. I don't think legitimate slabbers would touch it.....too hot!

It would also be absolutely necessary to establish provenance of the piece, BEFORE purchase.

Who would have $12 million to spare on a coin anyway? If it were sold, the FBI would be onto him like a rifle shot!

How is U.S. Law set up for this?
To attempt to deceive, or,
To have actually deceived?
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sel-
as far as making this outside the mint, it's on a struck dime. no need to pay money for a blank dime planchet (five bucks on ebay, just search for blank dime)
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A mule is the pairing of two dies that do not belong together. Denomination does not matter. If the 1959 Wheat ear reverse cent is ever determined to be genuine it would be a mule even though both dies were for one cent pieces. The 1840 medium letters half dollar is technically a mule. It has the obverse of a seated Liberty Half and the reverse of a capped bust half.
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This coin is still being disputed the 1959 Wheat cent:
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Look for it on Youtube, he has a lot of videos about it there also.
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What's the dispute on the 59d wheat? Another case of TPG charging $30 to tell you the ASE you bought from the mint is genuine, but not being able to confirm a coin is real if it requires any skill?
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So first you would need $12 million, then the money to buy a plane ticket to meet with him in his spot of choice... Then next, his goons jump out from around the corner, and steal your lunch money... Sounds like a good idea...
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