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1941kg Australian Penny Grade And Info On Grading Guidelines

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I am relatively new to grading Aussie and New Zealand coins so I will attempt to state what grade I believe this coin should be.

This coin should be a MS-60 since some bag marks appear without any major wear marks.

If you feel any different about this grade please tell me what the grade should be and the reasons to support your opinion.

Finally, please provide a link to a site that includes guidelines (and example photos) for grading both New Zealand and Aussie coins.

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mdpmedia


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 Posted 07/04/2011  02:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The copper which contributed to the bronze alloy for this date, and some coins only, was not refined to extract a trace gold component.

The copper is normally refined electrolitically, and the gold is normally collected as anode sludge.

As some of us would know from photography, finely divided silver is black. Some of us may not know that finely divided gold is purple.

Some of these coins of this date exhibit a purple tinge (due to the presence of gold?) in the patina, and I think this coin does. Mind you, the value of gold in the alloy (if present), would be completely negligible.
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 Posted 07/04/2011  04:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add markn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A badly struck issue and even UNC examples of this date can appear to those not familiar with the issue. That being said I'd worry that the friction I see on the roo's tail, back and neck could be wear. Darker areas of rub are also apparent on the King's jaw/eyebrow and hair. AU55 for me.
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Sorry, but there's no way this is anywhere near Unc, though being a typical wartime weak strike it's not quite as bad as it looks. I'm seeing high point wear here:

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I'd grade it Australian VF, American EF at best.

Because of the low relief, George VI coins are much harder to grade than George V coins, which have clearly definable degrees of wear. See the ANDA Grading guide PDF download for Australian grading standards for George V coins.
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 Posted 07/05/2011  06:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RickyDesilva to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is that a doubled legend on the obverse and doubled Penny on the reverse I see?
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No, I believe that the apparent doubling is an optical illusion from using a scanner etc.
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ahhh ok, darn hey lol
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Common coin,nothing special
move along..nothing to see here
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