New Zealand Pre-Decimal Pennies' Grade Needed

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mdpmedia Pillar of the Community United States 3546 Posts	Posted 06/15/2011 12:30 am Hello, I have attached four of the more collectible pre-decimal New Zealand pennies for review. I have recently acquired a large set of of these pennies ranging from 1940 through 1963 with two extra duplicate pennies ('47 and '60). These couple of extra coins show the obverse side in the 1962 Dansco coin display book that all of these pennies reside in. Incidentally, if anyone would be interested in purchasing these 26 coins, please let me know. Please provide the grades of the attached '40, '42, '49, and '56 coins. Report this Post to the Staff

DVCollector Bedrock of the Community United States 10045 Posts	Posted 06/15/2011 01:17 am Your last penny, the 1956 is especially nice--there is something interesting about that one. Judging by the bust details, I think it's the "strapless" variety. Here's some more info. Does it still have luster? Could be EF? Krause puts a nice premium on the strapless variety for 1856. Mintage for the strapless was about 50,000 Report this Post to the Staff
sel_69l Bedrock of the Community Australia 21788 Posts	Posted 06/15/2011 02:40 am With the original Gillick bust first issued in 1953, Good Queen Bess had a strap on her shoulder that was so faint that it was possible to assume that she was topless! Mind you, if you look on a top condition coin from the first master die, a strap can just be discerned. I have a proof NZ sixpence of 1953, and indeed, the Good Lady has indeed a strap on her shoulder. Reputation preserved! I will vouch on behalf of Queen Elizabeth the Second myself if required! The design was re mastered and a strap became more obvious. Some the NZ strapless coins of 1956 must have been struck from dies which used the first master die. Report this Post to the Staff
mdpmedia Pillar of the Community United States 3546 Posts	Posted 06/15/2011 02:45 am DV, I have attached some new photos to help differentiate this coin some more. The first photo shows the designer initials, MG, at the base of the bust. The second photo is taken with two pennies('56 and '57) being held adjacent to one another at an angle to the light source. The '57 has 0 shine or luster. You can be the judge on the '56. The final picture is the one that has me totally confused based upon your statement that my '56 coin is the more expensive 'strapless' version. When I look at the photo that I just attached it appears to me to have strap on the queen's shoulder. Please clarify your reasoning as to why you feel this is the more expensive strapless version. Also state what you feel the grades of all the coins are that I initially included in this thread. Thank you mdpmedia Report this Post to the Staff
DVCollector Bedrock of the Community United States 10045 Posts	Posted 06/15/2011 03:06 am Quote: Please clarify your reasoning as to why you feel this is the more expensive strapless version. I was going by what was mentioned at the link I gave. The first pic looked more like a 45 degree bust truncation. I may well be wrong--you're a better judge of this with coin in hand. Report this Post to the Staff
sel_69l Bedrock of the Community Australia 21788 Posts	Posted 06/15/2011 03:13 am it seems to be obvious for the striking of pennies for 1956, working dies for their production were made from the old and new master dies. Most were made from the new master die. The coin pictured here is the more common variety, with the re cut strap detail. For more information, Google: 'Mary Gillick'. Report this Post to the Staff
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