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Valued Member
Australia
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i was looking at my brother law coin collection,and found a 2 cent
with no observe
is this common, because its the first time I have seen it
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Hello and  to CCF If you can show some pics. or scans of both sides of the coin that would be helpful. |
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Valued Member
Australia
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Hi and welcome.
It would also be helpful to provide the weight of the coin, that way you can tell if it is a true uniface or if the observe has been 'removed' after leaving the mint. however if this is in your brother in laws collection he may not want you playing with it ;-)
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Pictures would help but I suspect it is either very worn or Has been altered post mint.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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i agree with nohope, we really dont need a picture, its impossible for this to happen, so I can guarentee 100% that its PMD |
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Australia
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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i will this time, you can never get a coin to strike with only the hammer die. it wont work the other way around, either.
Edited by Adam_E
07/17/2011 8:15 pm
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Valued Member
Australia
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what if two blanks went in to the press, one on top of the other, resulting in two uniface coins - one observe and one reverse? stranger things have happened...
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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no, just imagine, 2 coins, twice the normal width of a normal coin, for one, the strike would be HAMMERED, and there would be serious deformation with either coin, and the coins will most likely be fused.
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what if two blanks went in to the press, one on top of the other, resulting in two uniface coins - one observe and one reverse? stranger things have happened... Quote:
no, just imagine, 2 coins, twice the normal width of a normal coin, for one, the strike would be HAMMERED, and there would be serious deformation with either coin, and the coins will most likely be fused. Adam is correct. If two blanks came out at the same time, it would be twice the thickness the collar would be expecting - they wouldn't both fit, so one or both of the blanks would bounce out; the best you could hope for in such a circumstance is a partial strike on one coin and a big piece missing on the other. If by some miracle both blanks stayed in place exactly centred while the dies came together, you'd get fusion, and while they might be re-separable again with some effort you'd get coins that looked more like split planchets (except they'd weigh the same as a normal coin), and probably some secondary damage caused by whatever tool you'd have used to pry them apart. The much more likely result is a capped die, as the mangled mess sticks to one die or the other and more blanks get added to the mix. What you certainly will not get, in such a situation, is a coin (or two coins) that look like they have only been struck on one side. Such a coin could only be made in the mint if somebody put a blank die into the press - and blank dies never go anywhere near the coining room. By far the most likely explanation is that someone has sanded off the obverse. Next most likely explanation is the split planchet I mentioned earlier. If it weighs about half of what a normal 2 cent should weigh and the "blank" side is rough and striated, then it's a split planchet. If it weighs only slightly less than a normal 2 cent and the blank side is perfectly smooth, then it's a grinder job. Only if it weighs exactly what a normal 2 cent should weigh should a stranger explanation be sought. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Valued Member
Australia
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ok, fair enough. always happy to learn!
so, demerest, how about it - can you weight the coin in question?
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Pillar of the Community
Egypt
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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I have a coin with the 'majority' of one side not there. It was caused from a strikethrough. However, there is still 'something' on that side. I don't think it possible for a strikethrough to eliminate a complete side. Therefore, I agree, that if it is completely blank then it is PMD. |
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Valued Member
 Australia
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you guys are probably right it
i will try to get a picture of the coin tomorrow
since I don't have a camera
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Valued Member
Australia
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here is the reserve  |
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Valued Member
Canada
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Yup, someone carved the obverse. Notice the pattern.
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Posted 07/17/2011 7:24 pm
