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 Posted 08/12/2011  10:14 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add redwine to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
And how would you grade this? Many thanks.
There may be a couple more.....

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 Posted 08/12/2011  10:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zachlovessix to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like it could make AU50
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LR EF
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 Posted 08/12/2011  11:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add redwine to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've been generally 3 or 4 points over, except for this coin where I was 8 or so under :)
I did read the guide on the site,but I shall have to do some more reading on this North American system.
Needless to say, you are a lot harsher (but fair) than most ebayers that are selling :))
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 Posted 08/12/2011  12:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add neweden to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This coin is no more than EF-40, take a look at just above the ear, slight wear there.
Take a good look at your Charlton grading guide,(the bible of grading coin from Canada)..
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I found this really helpful, when I started grading.

http://www.coinoisseur.com/GradingCoins.html
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 Posted 08/12/2011  3:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add redwine to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Many thanks. I shall read and digest :)
As for Charlton. I was thinking Bobby, Jackie or Athletic :))
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Wow, Bobby, Jackie and Charlton Athletic that goes back a bit, havent heard those names in awhile, at least since 1966 world cup.
I was a Leeds fan myself...
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 Posted 08/13/2011  02:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add redwine to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Fine team Leeds then. Although I wasn't a fan I could probably name most of the team of that era.
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 Posted 08/13/2011  7:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tamarin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It won't escape EF. I've owned many AU examples in the past of this coin and they were clearly more detailed and mint lustre was still evident in protected areas. Still a very nice coin.
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EF...look at the wear on the eyebrow.
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As I said before, I have found this a very useful exercise in the North American grading system.
One thing stands out though and that is you all seem very face (obverse) orientated.
At least two of these coins have had in my mind much superior rears.
This is in no way a criticism as I have gained a great deal from your expertise, just an observation.
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 Posted 08/15/2011  5:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tfred to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"rears" are just as important as "faces", however the obverse typically has more detail and "depth" to it. What I mean by depth is the varying heighth of the details. This will show the wear pattern better then the reverse which typically only has letters and numbers. Both sides of a coin have a story to tell, its just the obverse has more to say usually.
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The last sentence of your post pretty much sums up coin grading (in my opinion). Well said!
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